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    Re: University of Kentucky Men's Basketball - 6th edition

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    I don't think Cal is the greatest bench coach ever, but I think its patently ridiculous to say that he doesn't know how to coach up players, point guards especially. He gets awesome talent but he takes that talent and forces it to defend and attack, attack, attack. Perfect recipe for growth towards the NBA when you add in world-class athletes/prospects.

    You can point to how many "stud" players ending up as "duds" their freshmen year? Bunches. Why does that never happen to Calipari players? Is he just that much better at picking them than every other coach?
    The only other coach I can think of with a better track record for developing NBA ready PG's is Lute Olson.

    Whether or not Kentucky or Louisville fans want to admit it, John Calipari and Rick Pitino are one in the same when it comes to coaching up talent. Both are excellent motivators and have a signature weapon that they utilize (Calipari=DDMO, Pitino=full court pressure defense). However, the one area that they lack is game management. If its a three point game with a minute to go, you can almost start to bet money on the opposing team.

    Think about it, the only UK team besides last year's team that had individual talent from top to bottom was the 1996 National Championship team. With the way Cal recruits, I don't know if we will ever have an opportunity to see that because it will depend heavily on defections. Next years team could possibly do it but I think we will lose three from this years team (Knight, Jones, and Lamb).
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    Re: University of Kentucky Men's Basketball - 6th edition

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    The only other coach I can think of with a better track record for developing NBA ready PG's is Lute Olson.

    Whether or not Kentucky or Louisville fans want to admit it, John Calipari and Rick Pitino are one in the same when it comes to coaching up talent. Both are excellent motivators and have a signature weapon that they utilize (Calipari=DDMO, Pitino=full court pressure defense). However, the one area that they lack is game management. If its a three point game with a minute to go, you can almost start to bet money on the opposing team.

    Think about it, the only UK team besides last year's team that had individual talent from top to bottom was the 1996 National Championship team. With the way Cal recruits, I don't know if we will ever have an opportunity to see that because it will depend heavily on defections. Next years team could possibly do it but I think we will lose three from this years team (Knight, Jones, and Lamb).

    You know what WVRed. As like most Wildcat fans I honestly took some pokes at your team. But I am from Winnipeg,Canada and did not know as much about KU and there history going into typing and speaking on the KU team that I will admit.

    Apparently you are a fan of Calipari and world wide Wes and his Nike ties. Thus actually becoming in your eyes as nothing more than a "troll" will never be an area we can agree on. But the laundry list on Calipari is Jerry Tarkanian like.
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    Re: University of Kentucky Men's Basketball - 6th edition

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    You know what WVRed. As like most Wildcat fans I honestly took some pokes at your team. But I am from Winnipeg,Canada and did not know as much about KU and there history going into typing and speaking on the KU team that I will admit.

    Apparently you are a fan of Calipari and world wide Wes and his Nike ties. Thus actually becoming in your eyes as nothing more than a "troll" will never be an area we can agree on. But the laundry list on Calipari is Jerry Tarkanian like.
    I'm a huge Louisville fan but you're ruining a good thread with your trolling. No Louisville fan can make serious accusations against Calipari given that we have Pitino. Personally, I'd rather have a coach who bends the rules professionally (as all do) then one who lacks a moral code in his personal life. And it is hard to bring up the WWW and Nike thing when Pitino just hired Tim Fuller whose primary qualification for the job is his Nike contacts.
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    Re: University of Kentucky Men's Basketball - 6th edition

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    You know what WVRed. As like most Wildcat fans I honestly took some pokes at your team. But I am from Winnipeg,Canada and did not know as much about KU and there history going into typing and speaking on the KU team that I will admit.

    Apparently you are a fan of Calipari and world wide Wes and his Nike ties. Thus actually becoming in your eyes as nothing more than a "troll" will never be an area we can agree on. But the laundry list on Calipari is Jerry Tarkanian like.
    Come on, bro. This is getting kinda silly. What good does posting garbage like this do? I don't like UK either and I know it's frustrating as hell to argue with WMR but this kinda stuff just makes you look bad.
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    Re: University of Kentucky Men's Basketball - 6th edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Topcat View Post
    You know what WVRed. As like most Wildcat fans I honestly took some pokes at your team. But I am from Winnipeg,Canada and did not know as much about KU and there history going into typing and speaking on the KU team that I will admit.

    Apparently you are a fan of Calipari and world wide Wes and his Nike ties. Thus actually becoming in your eyes as nothing more than a "troll" will never be an area we can agree on. But the laundry list on Calipari is Jerry Tarkanian like.
    You still come across as very clueless on Kentucky BB. The dead giveaway is your constant reference to KU and "there" history. Upon hearing that I thought you were talking Kansas Jayhawk sports.

    Go do some more research before embarrassing yourself here anymore.
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    I'm a huge Louisville fan but you're ruining a good thread with your trolling. No Louisville fan can make serious accusations against Calipari given that we have Pitino. Personally, I'd rather have a coach who bends the rules professionally (as all do) then one who lacks a moral code in his personal life. And it is hard to bring up the WWW and Nike thing when Pitino just hired Tim Fuller whose primary qualification for the job is his Nike contacts.
    This.

    You are one of the most intelligent and informative Louisville fans that post on this board. I will admit that I will bring up the "Little Brother U" card from time to time but overall, I have a great deal of respect for Louisville and their accomplishments. It may not be the same as Kentucky, but it is still impressive.

    I've been hazed by WMR for saying this, but I think UK fans owe Rick Pitino a great deal for restoring the program after Eddie Sutton left it in shambles. I also don't fault Rick for leaving for a NBA job with complete control in New England, where he is from. Personal issues aside, coming back to Louisville was probably the worst thing he could have done to UK fans, but the STATE of KENTUCKY was his adoptive home, as has been mentioned before.

    As for the UK-UofL rivalry, consider this: I currently live in West Virginia and have to hear WVU fans talk about how much they would love to get out of playing Marshall, especially in football and even when Marshall was doing well back during the 1990's. The only reason the series is even played now is because the governor intervened. There is a difference though in that WVU is in constant BCS contention while Marshall isn't on the same playing level.

    As a UK fan, I couldn't imagine not playing Louisville. That's why I never understood WVU fans and their attitude towards playing their in-state "little brother". Am I the only one who feels this way?
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    Re: University of Kentucky Men's Basketball - 6th edition

    Two in a row.

    Three things I see with this team right now:

    1. No depth-There is nobody else on the bench who can contribute outside of Doron Lamb. Cal did go deeper into the bench tonight by bringing in Hood and Polson, but there is nobody else.

    2. No inside presence-Harrellson has disappeared of late, and Vargas is very ineffective. How far we go in the tournament is going to depend heavily on the draw because if we face a team with decent bigs, we are finished.

    3. No veteran leadership-We have veterans, they just don't play like veterans. Darius Miller passing up a wide open shot against Ole Miss is a prime example of that. Miller is too passive and Liggins is a defensive specialist only. Harrellson is a senior who plays at times like a sophomore.

    This team will still make the tournament but it is kinda getting frustrating to watch. Hopefully Cal will find something that will work come SEC tournament time so we can work toward getting a higher seed.
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    I want to apologize for flaming in this thread. I am a passionate fan but have let my anger thru work cloud my opinions and thoughts on this thread. I am sorry and will try to be a better poster as I used to be in the past. Sorry all UK fans and those I have offended.
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    Re: University of Kentucky Men's Basketball - 6th edition

    HOW BOUT DEM GATORS!!!!

    You guys need to take it easy on Calipari. Almost every coach around says that kind of stuff - he just happened to get caught on camera. He's great at what he does and he is the best recruiter in the country not named Billy Donovan.

    And, damn - I wish we would have gotten Brandon Knight.
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    Re: University of Kentucky Men's Basketball - 6th edition

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigLebowski View Post
    HOW BOUT DEM GATORS!!!!

    You guys need to take it easy on Calipari. Almost every coach around says that kind of stuff - he just happened to get caught on camera. He's great at what he does and he is the best recruiter in the country not named Billy Donovan.

    And, damn - I wish we would have gotten Brandon Knight.
    I made the comment that after it happened how when Calipari does it, it gets national press. Coach K is a potty mouth with his players and it gets swept under the rug by ESPN. As long as you're winning I guess....

    Don't know if the Donovan best recruiter comment was sarcasm or not, but he's lost his recruiting touch. He's lost two five star in state recruits (Brandon Knight and Austin Rivers) to out of state schools. His top recruit coming in next year is from St Louis (same HS as David Lee). It's a shame because he could have really built on the two national championships and it just seems like Florida has stalled.
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    Re: University of Kentucky Men's Basketball - 6th edition

    Big game tonight with UT coming to Rupp. Scotty Hopson looks like he will play albeit not at 100%. UK has the starters, UT the depth. I doubt the Volunteers can pull one off at Rupp but we'll see

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    Way too many turnovers, but overall a good game for the Cats last night. We still struggle to put teams away, and the occasional droughts on offense continue, but these are always concerns with a team so young and thin.

    UK is now 30-0 at home in the Cal era. Not bad.
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    Re: University of Kentucky Men's Basketball - 6th edition

    I blame the refs.
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    Rick Stansbury is officially my least favorite coach of all time. The stunt before the end of the half didn't help either.
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    Re: University of Kentucky Men's Basketball - 6th edition

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    Rick Stansbury is officially my least favorite coach of all time. The stunt before the end of the half didn't help either.
    I don't think we'll be seeing him much longer.
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