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    Re: Don Wakamatsu canned

    Can't blame the M's. He was given a team that should have competed and it's in last place well below .500.

    Still think he could be a good manger in the future. If anything, another manager on the market gives the Reds more negotiating power when they talk to Baker at the end of the season.
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    Re: Don Wakamatsu canned

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNext44 View Post
    Can't blame the M's. He was given a team that should have competed and it's in last place well below .500.

    Still think he could be a good manger in the future. If anything, another manager on the market gives the Reds more negotiating power when they talk to Baker at the end of the season.
    What power do the Reds get from a guy who got canned before he finished his 2nd season being on the market?

    Narron is still out there too, does that give the Reds power?

    Most GM's give their team some offense, maybe the M's should have thought of that when they were checking out guys gloves.

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    Re: Don Wakamatsu canned

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    What power do the Reds get from a guy who got canned before he finished his 2nd season being on the market?

    Narron is still out there too, does that give the Reds power?

    Most GM's give their team some offense, maybe the M's should have thought of that when they were checking out guys gloves.
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    Re: Don Wakamatsu canned

    A day after Brandon Morrow, traded by the Seattle GM for an erratic setup guy with no real track record of success, throws a one-hitter with 17 Ks.

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    Re: Don Wakamatsu canned

    WAK was a dead man walking as he lost the clubhouse about the time Jr was falling asleep but his final nail was a couple of weeks ago...

    This had zilch to do with events of the weekend...
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    Re: Don Wakamatsu canned

    WAK was a dead man walking as he lost the clubhouse about the time Jr was falling asleep but his final nail was a couple of weeks ago...

    This had zilch to do with events of the weekend...
    Yet, today's events do help steer attention away from Brandon Morrow. You cannot deny that.
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    Re: Don Wakamatsu canned

    Who cares?
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    Re: Don Wakamatsu canned

    Who cares?
    Anybody who does not not subscribe to the "Zduriencik is ever wise" narrative, I suppose.
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    Re: Don Wakamatsu canned

    Morrow for League was a decent trade for both clubs. It had nothing to do with the M's success this year. The fact that one of them had good game a few days ago is pretty irrelevant.
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    Re: Don Wakamatsu canned

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Anybody who does not not subscribe to the "Zduriencik is ever wise" narrative, I suppose.
    Seriously, the only two choices are either 1) this is a conspiracy to distract the Seattle fanbase or 2) you're hopelessly, blindly biased if you don't see the conspiracy?

    Please stop with the veiled attacks BTW, that kind of thing isn't acceptable on the Sundeck so it certainly doesn't rise to the higher standard of the ORG.
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    Re: Don Wakamatsu canned

    Morrow for League was a decent trade for both clubs. It had nothing to do with the M's success this year. The fact that one of them had good game a few days ago is pretty irrelevant.
    "Good game" is an understatement. He pitched one of the best games of the last decade.

    Trading Morrow, a recent 1st rounder taken in the top 5 picks, was gutsy and indicated that the new regime considered him a bust. But he's got a great arm, top of rotation type stuff if you can harness it. Seattle didn't think he could start. Now, starting for Toronto, with a great defensive catcher caddying for him, he's putting up a 77 K/22 BB ratio over his last 63 innings. How well would that play in Safeco?

    I know which side of that trade I'd want to be on.
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    Re: Don Wakamatsu canned

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    I know which side of that trade I'd want to be on.
    Sure. But every trade is a risk, and every GM makes bad trades.

    The Morrow trade couldn't have helped the cause of the coaching staff, but no one cans a staff to change the news cycle. At least, no one since Steinbrenner died.

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    Re: Don Wakamatsu canned

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    WAK was a dead man walking as he lost the clubhouse about the time Jr was falling asleep but his final nail was a couple of weeks ago...

    This had zilch to do with events of the weekend...
    This is 100% dead on. That whole Jr. fiasco was the beginning of the end.

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    Re: Don Wakamatsu canned

    Okay, just to let you all know, calling up your local Kroger and asking if they have Don Wakamatsu in a can...not a very good joke.
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