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    Off day offensive fun!

    Chicken soup for one's tortured sinus of demoralizing defeat, OBI stats!

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    RANK	NAME	PA	PA_ROB	R1	R2	R3	R1_BI	R2_BI	R3_BI	ROB	OBI	R1BI%	R2BI%	R3BI%	OBI%
    1	Hanigan	152	65	44	35	23	6	10	10	102	26	13.6	28.6	43.5	25.5
    5	Cairo	172	66	38	42	20	2	6	12	100	20	5.3	14.3	60	20
    20	Votto	468	213	140	86	45	18	15	16	271	49	12.9	17.4	35.6	18.1
    22	Gomes	406	205	154	88	53	9	17	27	295	53	5.8	19.3	50.9	18
    34	Ramon H	246	118	89	42	40	7	10	12	171	29	7.9	23.8	30	17
    39	Rolen	380	186	134	87	48	7	17	20	269	44	5.2	19.5	41.7	16.4
    79	Cabrera	453	169	110	70	51	5	6	23	231	34	4.5	8.6	45.1	14.7
    88	Stubbs	399	181	119	88	61	5	16	18	268	39	4.2	18.2	29.5	14.6
    141	BP	511	200	128	90	43	5	12	13	261	30	3.9	13.3	30.2	11.5
    153	Bruce	452	226	167	105	51	4	14	15	323	33	2.4	13.3	29.4	10.2
    Edited in glossary:
    PA_ROB: Plate appearances with runners on base
    R1, 2, 3: runner on 1B, 2B, 3B
    R1_BI, etc: runner on 1B, 2B, 3B batted in
    ROB: total number of runners on base
    OBI: total number of others batted in

    Among NL batters with 150 PA, look who leads the league in driving in baserunners. I'm not convinced this is really a skill above and beyond regular hitting but it's interesting to see.

    Maybe the most interesting part of it, that Hanigan leads the Reds in driving in runners who are on FIRST BASE.

    (OK, he's converted 6 baserunners on first into runs in 44 chances )

    Although Bruce hasn't been good, he has improved from earlier in the year when he was, as I recall, below 10%.

    Ramon H has been doing a nice job with the bat this year too. Most productive catching tandem in the big leagues: Rymon Hernanigan?

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    Re: Off day offensive fun!

    And how Reds hitters rank in wOBA (NL only, 140 PA minimum):

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    NL Rank	Name	BB%	K%	BB/K	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	ISO	Spd	BABIP	wRC	wRAA	wOBA
    1	Votto	14.30%	22.50%	0.75	0.319	0.421	0.597	1.018	0.278	4.3	0.35	96.9	42.6	.436
    20	Rolen	9.20%	16.60%	0.64	0.292	0.363	0.533	0.896	0.241	2.7	0.3	62.1	18	.382
    52	Ramon H	8.90%	15.50%	0.65	0.301	0.366	0.438	0.805	0.137	1.7	0.34	34.8	6.3	.355
    53	Cairo	8.10%	13.20%	0.70	0.298	0.365	0.424	0.789	0.126	5.4	0.32	24.2	4.3	.354
    57	Hanigan	12.50%	11.70%	1.27	0.289	0.384	0.414	0.798	0.125	0.9	0.3	21	3.4	.351
    69	BP	6.80%	12.40%	0.60	0.283	0.337	0.452	0.788	0.169	5.6	0.3	67.6	8.3	.343
    87	Gomes	6.70%	24.70%	0.30	0.269	0.328	0.443	0.771	0.175	3.9	0.31	50	2.8	.332
    93	Nix	6.70%	24.80%	0.29	0.277	0.327	0.460	0.786	0.182	3.4	0.34	18	0.7	.329
    104	Bruce	9.50%	26.50%	0.40	0.257	0.327	0.408	0.736	0.151	4.9	0.32	52	-0.5	.322
    111	Stubbs	8.30%	31.70%	0.29	0.235	0.302	0.403	0.706	0.168	7.6	0.3	44.3	-2	.317
    150	Cabrera	5.50%	11.30%	0.53	0.260	0.302	0.339	0.641	0.079	4.4	0.28	40	-12.6	.289
    Can Hanigan play OF?

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    Re: Off day offensive fun!

    In case you haven't heard....Ryan Hanigan only drove in 11 runs last year.



    Nate, thanks for your thread starters today. These types of threads are why RZ continues to be my favorite site. (after nickelodeon of course, but you understand)
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    Re: Off day offensive fun!

    Quote Originally Posted by VR View Post
    In case you haven't heard....Ryan Hanigan only drove in 11 runs last year.
    I hadn't heard Thom say that four dozen times per game, no.



    Nate, thanks for your thread starters today. These types of threads are why RZ continues to be my favorite site. (after nickelodeon of course, but you understand)
    Thanks!
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    Re: Off day offensive fun!

    I should point out, in case you're new to wOBA (or it is new to you) that .330 is considered average. So in this case, Nix and Gomes appear are straddling the line.
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    Re: Off day offensive fun!

    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    Nix and Gomes appear are straddling the line.
    So what does that make Cabrera at .289?
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    Re: Off day offensive fun!

    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    Rymon Hernanigan
    I don't know why, but this one....I can't stop giggling. :O)

    Btw...with all the slamming Gomes has been taking lately (and I've come around on him defensively...he's pretty darned bad) his numbers for the year are still quite solid. Yes, he's struggled lately, but I still feel a good portion of that is him being stuck on 99 dingers. He seemed to be trying to FORCE the HR to come and now it's gotten in his head some. That string of AB's he had recently is what he SHOULD be doing (showing patience and drawing the walks), but the ones he's had since that....*shudder*

    Bruce I'm not concerned about to be honest. He's still VERY young and it really won't take much for him to turn it around. Even with him struggling like he has, his numbers are still pretty darned solid too. The low HR numbers are a bit puzzling for me. Can't quite figure that one out...other than poor luck.


    What? No Janish numbers? :O)
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    Re: Off day offensive fun!

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    What? No Janish numbers? :O)
    Not enough PA.
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    Re: Off day offensive fun!

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    I don't know why, but this one....I can't stop giggling. :O)

    Bruce I'm not concerned about to be honest. He's still VERY young and it really won't take much for him to turn it around. Even with him struggling like he has, his numbers are still pretty darned solid too. The low HR numbers are a bit puzzling for me. Can't quite figure that one out...other than poor luck.


    What? No Janish numbers? :O)
    I am hoping the power drain is part of the wrist injury from last year. Alonso is killing the ball and he went down earlier than Bruce if I recall? Someone pick me up if I have that backwards?
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    Re: Off day offensive fun!

    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    Not enough PA.
    I know. I was joking.
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    Re: Off day offensive fun!

    Quote Originally Posted by LincolnparkRed View Post
    I am hoping the power drain is part of the wrist injury from last year. Alonso is killing the ball and he went down earlier than Bruce if I recall? Someone pick me up if I have that backwards?
    Ugh I believe your correct about 3 weeks or so between the 2 events. Around June 20th for Alonso and around July 12th for Bruce. That may have some bearing on it. Though I think at least some of the problem is still in the swing mechanics for Bruce.
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    Re: Off day offensive fun!

    Interesting stat I found the other day regarding Heisey...having issues copying and pasting the table from baseball reference, but in a nutshell:

    vs SP, 1st: .380 OPS
    vs SP, 2nd: .367 OPS
    vs SP, 3rd: .921 OPS

    vs RP, 1st: 1.348 OPS

    Tonight more of the same, 0-2 vs the starter. Luck, random variation, issues with starters, other?


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