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Thread: Better shortstop Dave Concepcion or Ozzie Smith?

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    Re: Better shortstop Dave Concepcion or Ozzie Smith?

    As a shortstop, Ozzie's fielding % was .978 while Concepcion's was .971.

    Ozzie's range factor was higher, also.

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    Re: Better shortstop Dave Concepcion or Ozzie Smith?

    Concepcion was a better "clutch-hitter", also...usually among the league-leaders in hitting w/ RISP.

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    Re: Better shortstop Dave Concepcion or Ozzie Smith?

    Concepcion was a better "clutch-hitter", also...usually among the league-leaders in hitting w/ RISP.

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    Re: Better shortstop Dave Concepcion or Ozzie Smith?

    Concepcion was a better "clutch-hitter", also...usually among the league-leaders in hitting w/ RISP.

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    Re: Better shortstop Dave Concepcion or Ozzie Smith?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    Concepcion was a better "clutch-hitter", also...usually among the league-leaders in hitting w/ RISP.
    So nice you have to say it 3 times.

    BTW...his numbers do not prove that out. Same average and .002 higher slugging w/RISP vs. his overall hitting. His OBP is .015 higher, but that is just walking with runners in scoring position. With an OPS below .700 I would not put him in the clutch hitting hall of fame.

    Concepcion was a better clutch hitter, but he was a better hitter in general. Both of them have near identical RISP numbers to their overall numbers.
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    Re: Better shortstop Dave Concepcion or Ozzie Smith?

    Quote Originally Posted by redlegs2370 View Post
    Are you saying Concepcion didn't have great range? I would say they were similar on range. Point blank Dave Concepcion was as good of defensive shortstop as Ozzie Smith and just an all around better baseball player. If you polled Bench, Rose, Morgan, Griffey, Perez, Oester, Driessen, etc they would 100% say they would rather have Concepcion at shortstop on their team than Ozzie Smith.
    I heard Joe Morgan say on a telecast, "Davey Concepcion was the best shortstop I'd ever seen until I saw Ozzie Smith." The Wizard of Oz was a better shortstop than Conception. And, yes, Davey belongs in the Hall.
    All brilliant shortstops belong there.
    Oz was even better than Omar Vizquel, and that's hard for me to say as a native Clevelander and lifelong Indians fan. Oz had a better arm than Omar.

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    Re: Better shortstop Dave Concepcion or Ozzie Smith?

    Quote Originally Posted by Griffey012 View Post
    I am too young to have watched Concepcion. But I know from watching Ozzie that he was quite the entertainer, where I am guessing Concepcion was more of just a baseball player. I know Ozzie was a whizz in the field, but unfortunately I have never seen Concepcion play. So I can't make a fair assessment.
    Concepcion was a phenomenal SS and an even better all around baseball player. Tremendous range, sick throwing arm, clutch hitter. I'd rate them as rough equals defensively. Overall a Concepcion was a better player than Ozzie IMO, but by only a small margin as Ozzie was also great.


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