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    8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins

    Another big test tonight versus Josh Johnson (10-4, 1.97 ERA)

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    Votto 1B
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    Hernandez C
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    Edinson Volquez P

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    Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins

    I had a good idea that Heisey was going to be the one messed up by Edmonds trade.

    I'm sure people will try and convince me again that I was just hating and overreacting.
    This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.

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    Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric View Post
    I had a good idea that Heisey was going to be the one messed up by Edmonds trade.

    I'm sure people will try and convince me again that I was just hating and overreacting.
    Well it won't be me. Not sure why getting Edmonds opened the door for Nix?

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    Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric View Post
    I had a good idea that Heisey was going to be the one messed up by Edmonds trade.

    I'm sure people will try and convince me again that I was just hating and overreacting.
    Maybe it is because Heisey struggles against good pitching. Check out his performance when he faces better pitchers. It isn't good.

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    Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    Maybe it is because Heisey struggles against good pitching. Check out his performance when he faces better pitchers. It isn't good.
    This is just going from memory, but Nix seems to have faired pretty well against the stronger RHP starters in the league this year as well

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    Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    Maybe it is because Heisey struggles against good pitching. Check out his performance when he faces better pitchers. It isn't good.
    Laynce Nix can't hit either good or bad pitching over his career. I think I'll trust those thousand at bats or so over your sample size.
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    Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric View Post
    Laynce Nix can't hit either good or bad pitching over his career. I think I'll trust those thousand at bats or so over your sample size.
    But what does that have to do with Edmonds?
    "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

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    Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric View Post
    Laynce Nix can't hit either good or bad pitching over his career. I think I'll trust those thousand at bats or so over your sample size.
    I don't know. I haven't broken down his ABs on film but the stats show a lack of success vs top pitching. A quick scan of names showed him at 4-24 vs "name" pitchers with

    1 HR vs Wagner. Nix alone vs Oswalt this
    year was 4-5.

    Going off that I'd say your theory is off. Maybe the team has seen him as completely overmatched vs guys like Johnson. I'll take their opinion on that matter.

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    Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    Maybe it is because Heisey struggles against good pitching. Check out his performance when he faces better pitchers. It isn't good.
    Firstly, that sounds like a normal trend for any batter.

    Secondly, how many at-bats does he have against good pitching? Like 50?

    Hesiey in CF and Edmonds in LF helps the defense significantly (in CF without hurting LF) and probably improves the offense to.

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    Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman View Post
    Firstly, that sounds like a normal trend for any batter.

    Secondly, how many at-bats does he have against good pitching? Like 50?

    Hesiey in CF and Edmonds in LF helps the defense significantly (in CF without hurting LF) and probably improves the offense to.
    Defense is the flavor of the month. For all the defense talk, Heisey had a boneheaded play vs STL as well. I realize that he has become a fan favorite and I wouldn't be bothered with him starting, but maybe we can face reality and see that there might be a legit reason for him not to start.

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    Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    Defense is the flavor of the month. For all the defense talk, Heisey had a boneheaded play vs STL as well. I realize that he has become a fan favorite and I wouldn't be bothered with him starting, but maybe we can face reality and see that there might be a legit reason for him not to start.
    So what I'm not even allowed to mention defense in a post?

    I mentioned both compnents and suggested that using Nix probably hurts in BOTH areas, and definitley hurts us defenisvely.

    It's not like Nix is a good hitter. Generally speaking, the reasoning to get him on the field would be his defense, but I suppose you don't care much about that, so why do you want him playing?

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    Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    Defense is the flavor of the month. For all the defense talk, Heisey had a boneheaded play vs STL as well. I realize that he has become a fan favorite and I wouldn't be bothered with him starting, but maybe we can face reality and see that there might be a legit reason for him not to start.
    I personally am starting to wonder if you even read and analyze opinions that go against the FO. At this point it looks like you would rather just label us all into "FO hater/Heisey fan favorite" category, rather than actually debate our opinions.

    This is the third time in less than a week I've basically been labeled something by you. It's not exactly good for intelligent discussion. I'm not running around and labeling you a FO shill.
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    Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins

    I'm not sure Heisey is 100%. It looked like he twisted an ankle crossing the 1st base bag late in the game on Wednesday.

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    Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins

    When did it not become a good idea to load the lineup with lefties against Josh Johnson?

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    Re: 8/13/10 - Reds vs Marlins

    Josh Johnson was a Carolina Mudcat in 2005 and was named the Southern League's Pitcher of the Year for 2005. He was 12-4 with an ERA of 3.87.


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