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    Posey's Fundamental Mistakes

    Interesting read on catching

    Buster Posey showed up in the big leagues as a polished, patient hitter, setting a tone for plate discipline that even veteran players had to admire. He also has one of the strongest, most accurate throwing arms in the National league. There are aspects of the catcher's art, however, that he needs to learn.

    When Raul Ibanez tripled off reliever Jeremy Affeldt in the seventh inning last night, scoring Chase Utley from second base for a 6-2 lead, Mike Krukow told his audience that "Posey tipped that pitch."

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...#ixzz0xAsKd92r
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    Re: Posey's Fundamental Mistakes

    very interesting. But wasn't Krukow a pitcher? Maybe he was a catcher in the minors before hei was a pitcher, but he definitely was a pitcher in the majors.
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    Re: Posey's Fundamental Mistakes

    I'm not going to be the picky guy who points out that Krukow was a pticher, not a catcher. Somebody else can do that.

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    Re: Posey's Fundamental Mistakes

    See? 44 did it.

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    Re: Posey's Fundamental Mistakes

    Quote Originally Posted by tixe View Post
    See? 44 did it.
    yeah someone did it in the comments of the blog as well

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    Re: Posey's Fundamental Mistakes

    And Wiki says he was drafted as a catcher. Looked it up because such things bug me.

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    Re: Posey's Fundamental Mistakes

    Interesting though that it was again the Phillies stealing signs, alledgedly.
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    Re: Posey's Fundamental Mistakes

    Nice find, WOY.

    I hate to think of them wasting Posey's career behind the dish but it sounds like he's just that good that he's got to be back there.
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    Re: Posey's Fundamental Mistakes

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    Interesting though that it was again the Phillies stealing signs, alledgedly.
    That's not stealing a sign per se, in essence that's taking advantage of someone who doesn't think the other team is paying attention.

    That's money.

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    Re: Posey's Fundamental Mistakes

    So next time, he drills Utley. And they both learn a lesson.

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    Re: Posey's Fundamental Mistakes

    I find no wrongdoing in breaking someone else's code of communication in a competitive environment. Another way of saying it is that if someone flashes their cards at you, is it wrong to look at their hand?
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    Re: Posey's Fundamental Mistakes

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    I find no wrongdoing in breaking someone else's code of communication in a competitive environment. Another way of saying it is that if someone flashes their cards at you, is it wrong to look at their hand?
    Apparently neither do the Phillies. And to answer your question no it's not wrong if they flash them at you, but it's debatable at the very least least to look just because if you do you can see their cards without them flashing them.
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    Re: Posey's Fundamental Mistakes

    I wish more ex-player analysts would talk about things like this rather than citing a guy's batting average during day games when he's wearing blue boxers. Good stuff.
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    Re: Posey's Fundamental Mistakes

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    I more ex-player analysts would talk about things like this rather than citing a guy's batting average during day games when he's wearing blue boxers. Good stuff.
    IMO, Brantley's actually VERY good about this kind of stuff. When he's actually talking about the pitchers and not his appetite, his insights are nice to hear.
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    Re: Posey's Fundamental Mistakes

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    Apparently neither do the Phillies. And to answer your question no it's not wrong if they flash them at you, but it's debatable at the very least least to look just because if you do you can see their cards without them flashing them.
    Signals are used for communication, but are not a necessity. The pitcher could call his own pitches, batters could bunt, squeeze, hit & run without flashing a sign, for example. That makes it difficult to say a team is cheating for cracking a code on signals and using it to their advantage. If you're not smart enough to develop a code that cannot be easily broken, then someone else smart enough to read the code is simply winning at a part of the game.

    Food for thought, if it is ethically wrong for the offense to tip pitches to the batter, then it is wrong for the catcher to use deceptive glove smacks to deceive a hitter on the location of a pitch.
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