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    No half measures, Walter RedEye's Avatar
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    Um... is the rotation a concern?

    Hate to be a downer amidst all of the good feeling on this board. I love this team. I want them to succeed. Desperately.

    Still, I can't help but be worried about the starting rotation we all called "deep" a few weeks ago.

    Wood is unproven (and getting knocked around tonight).
    Leake is exhausted.
    Volquez is still recovering--and moving to the 'pen.
    Harang is injured and/or ineffective and/or in the minors.
    Chapman isn't here yet or there yet.
    Bailey is...

    That leaves these dependable starters:

    Bronson Arroyo

    I'm starting to feel like the rotation will be running on fumes by the time the team (hopefully) gets to the plyaoffs.

    Tell me I'm wrong. Please, tell me I'm wrong.
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    Re: Um... is the rotation a concern?

    You are wrong bro! It's just a small bump in the road.

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    Re: Um... is the rotation a concern?

    ERA or not the rotation is a major problem. The Reds are relying on some extremely volatile young pitchers.

    Like you said the Reds have exactly one dependable starter. There is no doom and gloom in being honest about some concerns.
    This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.

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    Re: Um... is the rotation a concern?

    It's Arroyo and Cueto at this point.

    All the more reason to leave Volquez in the rotation and hope he figured it out.
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    Re: Um... is the rotation a concern?

    Depending on two rookies, a guy returning from arm surgery and Harang was always a recipe for trouble.
    Go Gators!

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    Re: Um... is the rotation a concern?

    For my part, decidedly unconcerned. Bad games and bad luck happen over 162 games. Giants came off a bad road trip and have gotten predictibly well at home over two games, and have been aided by some nice babip luck and some abnormally bad Reds defense.

    Stuff happens.

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    Re: Um... is the rotation a concern?

    I think the rotation's becoming a problem very quickly. As I've said before, we're going to need Harang, LeCure, and possibly even Maloney to get through this thing. Leake and Wood are up close to year-long inning limits. Volquez never has had any command; it's pure wishful thinking to think he's going to develop it. The most hopeful thing going right now is Bailey. So we've got Bronson, Cueto, Homer, LeCure, and we need to hope for Harang. Or nurse Wood along a little farther, then bring Maloney. Personally I'd push Chapman back up to 3 innings at a time by Sept. 15, then use him for some 5 inning starts from Sept. 15 to the end.

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    Re: Um... is the rotation a concern?

    Bailey might be our best pitcher right now.

    The mere fact that might be true is a concern.

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    Re: Um... is the rotation a concern?

    Check please!
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    Re: Um... is the rotation a concern?

    The rotation as a whole? No.

    Edinson Volquez? Yes.

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    Re: Um... is the rotation a concern?

    Yes and no. Leake and Wood are probably going to start tiring. They're very young guys still and have never previously pitched in the bigs. Volquez is coming back from TJ surgery. Arroyo is dependable, I think Cueto is at the point where he is and Bailey is sort of the wild card. He should be poised to really be effective. Harang could be a difference maker.

    If nothing else, the Reds have a ton of options...

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    Re: Um... is the rotation a concern?

    At the trade deadline nobody wanted to get a starting pitcher after Cliff Lee was dealt to the Rangers. Anyone want to turn back the clock?
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    Re: Um... is the rotation a concern?

    We still in first place? And have won 5 of 8 on a West Coast swing so far? Good grief.............I'm not sure everyone on here is familiar with a 162 game season.

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    Re: Um... is the rotation a concern?

    Kids and rehabbers are just too unreliable.

    Leake is toast (and has been for a while). Harang is now a bullpen guy and maybe Volquez is too. Chapman was converted long ago. Wood just got lit up. Bailey is still a question mark. Lecure and Maloney would be desperate moves.

    Arroyo and Cueto and pray for a tornado?

    Arroyo, Cueto, Wood and Bailey and ??????

    Some one mentioned Hiroki Kuroda on waivers. I'd love to see the Reds grab him or some other vet. Its not August 31 yet. They may still do something.
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    Re: Um... is the rotation a concern?

    Quote Originally Posted by MattyMo4Life View Post
    You are wrong bro! It's just a small bump in the road.
    Spoken like a true Cardinals fan. :

    Quote Originally Posted by hebroncougar View Post
    We still in first place? And have won 5 of 8 on a West Coast swing so far? Good grief.............I'm not sure everyone on here is familiar with a 162 game season.
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