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    Re: 2011 Top Ten

    I see Chapman as number one.

    I see Mesoraco and Hamilton as the next two because they play premium positions and have done well.

    I see Francisco and Alonso as 4-5. Both have weaknesses but significant positives and are on the cusp of the major leagues.

    I'd go with Yorman Rodriguez as 6. Big upside, but still a long way to go. Plate discipline issues.

    Todd Frazier at seven. Yasmani Grandal at 8. Cozart at 9. Joseph at 10.

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    Re: 2011 Top Ten

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    I see Francisco and Alonso as 4-5. Both have weaknesses but significant positives and are on the cusp of the major leagues.
    What's Yonder Alonso's weakness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    What's Yonder Alonso's weakness?
    Only plays one position.

    Not fast.

    For a first baseman, not a big power guy.

    By reputation, has trouble with lefties, although I haven't checked of late.

    Stengths are all around hitting ability and plate discipline. Probably a decent first baseman defensively from what I've heard.

    I think he's a top five player in the Reds' system. That's not bad at all.
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    Re: 2011 Top Ten

    id have to really take some time and think this over...and with the Reds getting ready to start I will edit this later....but any list without junior arias, billy hamilton and dave sappelt on it needs to be re-done....just my opinion but I will edit later.

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    Re: 2011 Top Ten

    1. Chapman: Must I explain?
    2. Mesoraco: 2 grand slams in his first week of AAA, and have you seen his stats?
    3. Hamilton: I put him as #3 because the Reds need a leadoff hitter, and he fits that rile perfectly.
    4. Valaika: Did you guys forget about him? .300+ average in AAA, good stats in the majors so far, solid defensively, what's not to like?
    5. Alonso: Good average hitter, apparently good power, but that didn't show in AAA. We don't need him though, so I say trade him and a pitcher for a left fielder or a shortstop.

    Not sure about the order of the next 5, but Grandal, Frazier, Cozart, Sappelt, and Fransisco.

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    Re: 2011 Top Ten

    Quote Originally Posted by Boss View Post
    1. Chapman: Must I explain?
    2. Mesoraco: 2 grand slams in his first week of AAA, and have you seen his stats?
    3. Hamilton: I put him as #3 because the Reds need a leadoff hitter, and he fits that rile perfectly.
    4. Valaika: Did you guys forget about him? .300+ average in AAA, good stats in the majors so far, solid defensively, what's not to like?
    5. Alonso: Good average hitter, apparently good power, but that didn't show in AAA. We don't need him though, so I say trade him and a pitcher for a left fielder or a shortstop.

    Not sure about the order of the next 5, but Grandal, Frazier, Cozart, Sappelt, and Fransisco.
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    Re: 2011 Top Ten

    1. Mez - Middle of the order bat, defense to stick at catcher. Easy call.
    2. Grandal - Switch hitting, high upside if he can stay behind the plate, decent upside if he goes to first.
    3. Alonso - As I predicted when he was drafted, inability to play other positions a check on his value. Major league ready right now, IMO.
    4. Hamilton - Slick fielding speedster will need to prove he has the arm to stick at SS and the bat/OB-skills to make his base-stealing a weapon.
    5. Y-Rod - Interchangable with Hamilton here. Young, raw, and full of potential upside and potential pitfalls as he grows up. Tremendous talent displayed as a very young 17 y/o in rookie ball.
    6. Chapman - Electric fastball, but value marginalized in current deployment. Could be the best bullpen guy ever, but ability to impact games severely limited in that role.
    7. Frazier - Call me crazy, but I think they jerked this guy around too much defensively and it adversely impacted his bat. I still believe, though.
    8. Cozart - Could be a solid big-league contributor if the Reds decide to move on from Brandon Phillips and his contract in 2012.
    9. Joseph - High-K impact LHP out of the pen. See, you can find them without converting starters.
    10. Guillon - Intriguing young pitcher, still too far off to project.
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    Re: 2011 Top Ten

    #1 - Chapman - There is still hope that things change when the Reds realize Homer isn't what they hoped he'd be.

    #2 - Mes - It's all been said. Big bat + Good glove, IMO #1 actual catcher in the minors.

    #3 - Alonso - His bat could still be special and if it is his defense will eventually be good enough. He may not be a future Red but that doesn't take away from his prospect status.

    #4 - Hamilton - I wouldn't hate on someone who put Yorman here instead, I could see the reasoning. But I am a sucker for potentially elite defensive SS's who can also be dynamic offensively.

    #5 - Yorman - Take everything I just said about Hamilton and apply it to CF.

    #6 - Cozart - Again I love the SS position and Cozart though not special could be very good.

    #7 - Frazier - Still a fan of Todd, but his armbar could potentially present some problems for him. I still think he is the teams answer at the hot corner for quite some time.

    #8 - Joseph - A nasty, nasty slider and enough heat to be a legit back of the pen arm. Just a little polishing to do so he could come quick.

    #9 - Grandal - Could move up this list quick but it's too soon to tell right now.

    #10 - Brad Boxberger - This is more a hope than anything else but he is the next best shot at us having a solid starter on the way. And I also still think ones draft position should hold some weight until we know something one way or the other.
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