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    Juan Francisco recalled, Mike Leake to disabled list with fatigued right shoulder

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    Re: Juan Francisco recalled, Mike Leake to disabled list with fatigued right shoulder

    So Leake won't be on the playoff roster? Am I understanding that right?

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    Re: Juan Francisco recalled, Mike Leake to disabled list with fatigued right shoulder

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    So Leake won't be on the playoff roster? Am I understanding that right?

    Not necessarily. As long as you're on the 25 man roster or the major league DL by 9-1, you are eligible for the playoffs.
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    Re: Juan Francisco recalled, Mike Leake to disabled list with fatigued right shoulder

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    So Leake won't be on the playoff roster? Am I understanding that right?
    He should be.. The Reds will have 2 spots availible with players on the 60 day dl

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    Re: Juan Francisco recalled, Mike Leake to disabled list with fatigued right shoulder

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    He should be.. The Reds will have 2 spots availible with players on the 60 day dl
    Leake would be eligible even without the 60 day considerations. It's players who are not presently on the 40 man roster who will be able to fill the two, maybe three, available slots for folks on the 60 day DL. It looks like it's just two (Arredondo and Lincoln, but I guess it's possible that Springer could move to the 60 day as well, unless some rule prohibits such a move this close to the season's end).
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    Re: Juan Francisco recalled, Mike Leake to disabled list with fatigued right shoulder

    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    Leake would be eligible even without the 60 day considerations. It's players who are not presently on the 40 man roster who will be able to fill the two, maybe three, available slots for folks on the 60 day DL. It looks like it's just two (Arredondo and Lincoln, but I guess it's possible that Springer could move to the 60 day as well, unless some rule prohibits such a move this close to the season's end).
    It could actually be any player from on or off the 40-man roster could fill the two 60-day DL spots, provided they were in the organization as of Aug. 31 and play the same position as the injured player (i.e. either pitcher or position player).

    EDIT: I meant, of course, if they're added to the 40-man roster before that time. They would have to be on the roster by then to be eligible, as they wouldn't be under Major League contract.
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    Re: Juan Francisco recalled, Mike Leake to disabled list with fatigued right shoulder

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    It could actually be any player from on or off the 40-man roster could fill the two 60-day DL spots, provided they were in the organization as of Aug. 31 and play the same position as the injured player (i.e. either pitcher or position player).

    EDIT: I meant, of course, if they're added to the 40-man roster before that time. They would have to be on the roster by then to be eligible, as they wouldn't be under Major League contract.
    Yes, you're correct. Thanks for clarifying that.
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    Re: Juan Francisco recalled, Mike Leake to disabled list with fatigued right shoulder

    no he is still eligible you either have to be on the active roster or the DL on the 31st to be eligible.

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    Re: Juan Francisco recalled, Mike Leake to disabled list with fatigued right shoulder

    But here's the thing. If we're basically shutting him down due to too many innings...do we WANT to use him in the playoffs? I don't think we do. At least not THIS year. In the next 5 years when we're in the playoffs each year, sure.

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    Re: Juan Francisco recalled, Mike Leake to disabled list with fatigued right shoulder

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    But here's the thing. If we're basically shutting him down due to too many innings...do we WANT to use him in the playoffs? I don't think we do. At least not THIS year. In the next 5 years when we're in the playoffs each year, sure.
    No, at least I don't...He was instrumental in getting us hopefully to the playoffs, but I do not want to see him in the playoffs. Either way, I still have the upmost respect for Leake and he has done an unreal job so far this season.
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    Re: Juan Francisco recalled, Mike Leake to disabled list with fatigued right shoulder

    Did Walt do the air quotes thingy when they said shoulder fatigue?

    And, I am glad they did this. Leake gave this team three good months when they really needed it. I tip my fan cap to him.

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    Re: Juan Francisco recalled, Mike Leake to disabled list with fatigued right shoulder

    So does this give more credibility to the report that Cordero, Francisco, and Chapman were seen eating together in Cincy yesterday?
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    Re: Juan Francisco recalled, Mike Leake to disabled list with fatigued right shoulder

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    So does this give more credibility to the report that Cordero, Francisco, and Chapman were seen eating together in Cincy yesterday?
    I'm not sure what it says though, because Francisco still played last night in Louisville right? They very well may have been in Cincinnati, but I don't think it means that Chapman's been called up.

    Looks like it's going to be September 1 for Chappy.

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    Re: Juan Francisco recalled, Mike Leake to disabled list with fatigued right shoulder

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Bailey View Post
    I'm not sure what it says though, because Francisco still played last night in Louisville right? They very well may have been in Cincinnati, but I don't think it means that Chapman's been called up.

    Looks like it's going to be September 1 for Chappy.
    I don't get the whole thing.

    Why go with 11 pitchers now, after the pitching staff was beaten up in SF?

    If anything, I'd expect more pitchers, not fewer pitchers.

    And Lecure is still on the staff, have to wonder how long he will stay up.

    September 1 is just a few days away, still I expect a pitcher to joing the club imminently.

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    Re: Juan Francisco recalled, Mike Leake to disabled list with fatigued right shoulder

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    I don't get the whole thing.

    Why go with 11 pitchers now, after the pitching staff was beaten up in SF?

    If anything, I'd expect more pitchers, not fewer pitchers.

    And Lecure is still on the staff, have to wonder how long he will stay up.

    September 1 is just a few days away, still I expect a pitcher to joing the club imminently.
    Nix and Phillips with limited availability means a position payer is needed. Cueto on the mound and a day off yesterday means the staff is probably in better shape than the position guys right now. If they need to go to the pen early, Lecure will get the call and be optioned after the game with a fresh arm to replace him. If Phillips or Nix improve Valaika or Francisco will go down and an arm added. It makes sense to me.

    I doubt that the Reds will still have 11 pitchers by Sunday.
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