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    McCoy: Harang to possibly start Tuesday

    According to this article from Hal McCoy the Reds may start Harang on Tuesday August 31st. The title of the article says Wednesday but the story is talking about him being back Tuesday and then being eligible for postseason.

    http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs...s_clicked.html


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    Re: McCoy: Harang to possibly start Tuesday

    My favorite Red during the 05 to 08 era. I give him one chance to show me what he's got next week...he's earned it.

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    Re: McCoy: Harang to possibly start Tuesday

    Who would we be bumping? Volquez?

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    Re: McCoy: Harang to possibly start Tuesday

    How amazing would it be if he came back looking like his old self...

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    Re: McCoy: Harang to possibly start Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    How amazing would it be if he came back looking like his old self...
    I'd love to see it. That would be huge right now.

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    Re: McCoy: Harang to possibly start Tuesday

    With Leake going on the DL, and Volquez struggling of late, Aaron Harang putting up a quality start would be huge.

    Good luck Aaron!
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    Re: McCoy: Harang to possibly start Tuesday

    It would be nice to see him have at least one decent start in Louisville first. His stats on rehab just aren't good enough to bring him back before he is ready. Even if he is ready I don't see him being a post season pitcher i would want to throw out there, he just isn't the same pitcher anymore.

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    Re: McCoy: Harang to possibly start Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds Fanatic View Post
    According to this article from Hal McCoy the Reds may start Harang on Tuesday August 31st. The title of the article says Wednesday but the story is talking about him being back Tuesday and then being eligible for postseason.

    http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs...s_clicked.html
    He'd be eligible for the postseason regardless. Players on the DL are eligible.

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    How can anybody think this is a good idea? He's getting lit up in AAA right now.
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    A little bit off topic, but do you guys think that Jesse Winker profiles more like Pete Rose or is he just the next Hal Morris??

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    Re: McCoy: Harang to possibly start Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    I give him one chance to show me what he's got next week...he's earned it.
    There you have it folks. The Reds can afford to give Harang a start, any quality organization is going to do that in August.
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    Re: McCoy: Harang to possibly start Tuesday

    Rather it be Tuesday than Friday-Sunday... But it seems like if he does start on Tuesday he will fall in line for the start on Sunday.
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    Re: McCoy: Harang to possibly start Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    How can anybody think this is a good idea? He's getting lit up in AAA right now.
    10 strikeouts, 2 walks and 1 homer allowed in 11 innings.

    That's not exactly getting 'lit up' by most people's standards.

    If you want to stretch it to say he has a fluke .382 BABIP in an extremely small sample and that, because of that, 62 percent of the baserunners he allowed scored in those 11 innings... well OK then. But lit up? That's something that is absolutely unsupported.
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    Re: McCoy: Harang to possibly start Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    10 strikeouts, 2 walks and 1 homer allowed in 11 innings.

    That's not exactly getting 'lit up' by most people's standards.

    If you want to stretch it to say he has a fluke .382 BABIP in an extremely small sample and that, because of that, 62 percent of the baserunners he allowed scored in those 11 innings... well OK then. But lit up? That's something that is absolutely unsupported.
    It's not unsupported. I've been hearing about Harang's unlucky BABIP for two years now. The fact of the matter is he makes some God awful pitches and he doesn't get away with it.

    He's made two starts:
    6 IP, 5 H, 5 ER, 2 BB, 5 K
    6 IP, 9 H, 6 ER, 0 BB, 5 K

    A 9 ERA in AAA is getting lit up by anyone's standard's.

    By comparison, Volquez had a 1.96 ERA in AAA in 23 innings while giving up 11 hits, walking 8, and striking out 21.

    There's no reason to replace Volquez with Harang right now.
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    Re: McCoy: Harang to possibly start Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    It's not unsupported. I've been hearing about Harang's unlucky BABIP for two years now. The fact of the matter is he makes some God awful pitches and he doesn't get away with it.

    He's made two starts:
    6 IP, 5 H, 5 ER, 2 BB, 5 K
    6 IP, 9 H, 6 ER, 0 BB, 5 K

    A 9 ERA in AAA is getting lit up by anyone's standard's.

    By comparison, Volquez had a 1.96 ERA in AAA in 23 innings while giving up 11 hits, walking 8, and striking out 21.

    There's no reason to replace Volquez with Harang right now.
    I would argue that the San Francisco performance would dictate that we replace Volquez with my kid sister. Thats a stretch of course, but you've gotta at least concede Volquez is struggling mightly. To which I say, lets give Aaron one last go-round.

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    Re: McCoy: Harang to possibly start Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    I would argue that the San Francisco performance would dictate that we replace Volquez with my kid sister. Thats a stretch of course, but you've gotta at least concede Volquez is struggling mightly. To which I say, lets give Aaron one last go-round.
    No doubt, I just don't think Harang is the answer to any question right now.
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    A little bit off topic, but do you guys think that Jesse Winker profiles more like Pete Rose or is he just the next Hal Morris??


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