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    Re: Chapman Up Tomorrow?

    Well, he isn't up yet. I know because I just read Chip's signature.
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    Re: Chapman Up Tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Bailey View Post
    Zero reason to DL Rhodes as September is merely hours away. Literally zero reason.
    Is there any reason not to? If they feel he needs to be disabled, it doesn't change anything at all. It won't change the structure of the pen. It won't change who will be eligible. I don't know that it matters, at this juncture.
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    Re: Chapman Up Tomorrow?

    Count me as one that thinks that if Rhodes isn't anymore injured then he's been all year he needs to stay in the pen.As it has been mentioned he can be rested with the expanded rosters.I'd say that sending a capable Rhodes to the DL so he can be ready for the playoffs is still getting ahead of ourself a bit.

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    Re: Chapman Up Tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    Is there any reason not to? If they feel he needs to be disabled, it doesn't change anything at all. It won't change the structure of the pen. It won't change who will be eligible. I don't know that it matters, at this juncture.
    If they DL'd Rhodes tommorrow, both Rhodes and the guy they call up would be eligible. Am I mistaken here?

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    Re: Chapman Up Tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    If they DL'd Rhodes tommorrow, both Rhodes and the guy they call up would be eligible. Am I mistaken here?
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    Re: Chapman Up Tomorrow?

    Just going on the simple fact that Chapman does NOT have to be up before Sept. to make the playoff roster I'm skeptical of this report. I'm thinking he had a source tell him "soon" and he didn't look hard enough to realize the full extent of the Reds' options.

    Regardless I'm counting down the hours till I get to see this kid pitch. It's like waiting for Santa. Except Santa is already attending all the recent Reds games. So I guess it's like waiting for ... well I don't know, but I'm excited.
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    Re: Chapman Up Tomorrow?

    How much rest does Rhodes need? Prior to yesterday he hadn't pitched in 4 days (8/25).
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    Re: Chapman Up Tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    Is there any reason not to? If they feel he needs to be disabled, it doesn't change anything at all. It won't change the structure of the pen. It won't change who will be eligible. I don't know that it matters, at this juncture.
    It depends on how disabled he is, I guess. If it's a situation where he needs two weeks at a minimum and then he'll be right, then I suppose it wouldn't make a difference. But if this is one of those situations where it's a nagging thing and it's not going to clear up for good until he can get an offseason's worth of rest? Then you're taking him out for 15 days, minimum, when he could pitch, and we're in a pennant race. So I'd lean towards the September virtual version of the DL instead of the actual DL, because then he'd be available if we really needed him.

    Also, I don't think it's necessary to put him on the DL so someone else can get a callup and be postseason eligible. Given the pitchers already on the 60-day DL who give us a lot of flexibility in the postseason roster due to the K-Rod loophole, I can't think of a scenario where a pitcher that will be in the organization tomorrow, and we really want on the postseason roster, can't be on it.
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    Re: Chapman Up Tomorrow?

    From John Fay:

    I'm told no Chapman tonight. #reds

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    Despite a bullpen that is struggling right now, it appears the Reds will wait until Wedneday to call up Chapman. Which means there's a strong chance he'll make his major league debut in St. Louis or Colorado instead of at home.

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    Re: Chapman Up Tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by IslandRed View Post
    It depends on how disabled he is, I guess. If it's a situation where he needs two weeks at a minimum and then he'll be right, then I suppose it wouldn't make a difference. But if this is one of those situations where it's a nagging thing and it's not going to clear up for good until he can get an offseason's worth of rest? Then you're taking him out for 15 days, minimum, when he could pitch, and we're in a pennant race. So I'd lean towards the September virtual version of the DL instead of the actual DL, because then he'd be available if we really needed him.

    Also, I don't think it's necessary to put him on the DL so someone else can get a callup and be postseason eligible. Given the pitchers already on the 60-day DL who give us a lot of flexibility in the postseason roster due to the K-Rod loophole, I can't think of a scenario where a pitcher that will be in the organization tomorrow, and we really want on the postseason roster, can't be on it.
    Usually, it's the position players that teams have to work to do something about, because a lot of teams only like to carry 10 pitchers on the division series roster, but nobody wants 15 position players on their 25 man roster on August 31.
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    Re: Chapman Up Tomorrow?

    From Fay:

    Aroldis Chapman does not have to be called up before Sept. 1 to be eligible for the playoffs. Quite frankly, I cant see why the Reds would not call him up for the Milwaukee series. I would pay to see him pitch to Prince Fielder. But Im told he will not be called up today.
    http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/201...-and-charpman/

    With Rhodes struggling in his last two appearances, and Prince Fielder in town, you would think it would make sense to bring Chapman up for this series.

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    Re: Chapman Up Tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    With Rhodes struggling in his last two appearances, and Prince Fielder in town, you would think it would make sense to bring Chapman up for this series.
    No worries. Bill Bray is still on the staff.

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    Re: Chapman Up Tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Which means there's a strong chance he'll make his major league debut in St. Louis or Colorado instead of at home.
    Is there an advantage to having his debut in St. Louis? Setting aside all of the reasons to debut in Cincy, the Cards will have little if any information on him if he makes his debut against them. I would imagine you do more to prepare for a guy if he has just impressed against the Brewers rather than AAA hitters.

    I also like this reasoning for delaying his big league arrival. The longer you wait, provided the team wins, the more you put off the league "catching up" to your star.

    Just a thought.

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    Re: Chapman Up Tomorrow?

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    No worries. Bill Bray is still on the staff.
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    Re: Chapman Up Tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by joshnky View Post
    Is there an advantage to having his debut in St. Louis? Setting aside all of the reasons to debut in Cincy, the Cards will have little if any information on him if he makes his debut against them. I would imagine you do more to prepare for a guy if he has just impressed against the Brewers rather than AAA hitters.

    I also like this reasoning for delaying his big league arrival. The longer you wait, provided the team wins, the more you put off the league "catching up" to your star.

    Just a thought.
    I'm kinda hoping that if he really has harnessed his stuff and has his fastball sitting at 102 touching 105 and a slider at 90-92, it won't matter what the book is on him...


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