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    How much longer do we keep sending Harang out there?

    How much more slack do we cut him?
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    Re: How much longer do we keep sending Harang out there?

    Until the Reds get some stones.

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    Re: How much longer do we keep sending Harang out there?

    He shouldn't have pitched today. He was bad earlier in this season, struggled in his two rehab starts, and struggled in his last start as well. The offense spots you a 4-0 lead and you respond by walking the opposing pitcher in Coors Field? Goodness. Continuing to run Aaron Harang out there every fifth day is a good way to let the Cardinals back in the race. Failing to acquire another starter at the deadline could come back to haunt.
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    Re: How much longer do we keep sending Harang out there?

    He threw his last pitch as a Red today, I imagine.
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    Re: How much longer do we keep sending Harang out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    He shouldn't have pitched today. He was bad earlier in this season, struggled in his two rehab starts, and struggled in his last start as well. The offense spots you a 4-0 lead and you respond by walking the opposing pitcher in Coors Field? Goodness. Continuing to run Aaron Harang out there every fifth day is a good way to let the Cardinals back in the race. Failing to acquire another starter at the deadline could come back to haunt.
    It's Coors Field and this is as tight a strike zone as you'll see in baseball.

    Yes, he is getting knocked around real good today. But pitching in Coors Field is hard enough, let alone having a tight zone. Heck, the Reds are knocking around Ubaldo too, so it's not just Harang on this day.
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    Re: How much longer do we keep sending Harang out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    He threw his last pitch as a Red today, I imagine.
    I doubt it unless they cut him.

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    Re: How much longer do we keep sending Harang out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    He threw his last pitch as a Red today, I imagine.
    Last start probably, but he'll be kept in middle relief.
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    Re: How much longer do we keep sending Harang out there?

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    It's Coors Field and this is as tight a strike zone as you'll see in baseball.

    Yes, he is getting knocked around real good today. But pitching in Coors Field is hard enough, let alone having a tight zone. Heck, the Reds are knocking around Ubaldo too, so it's not just Harang on this day.
    I'm tired of the excuses for Harang. He's been one of my favorite Reds but he clearly lacks the stuff to get big league hitters out at this point.

    There's no excuse for walking a pitcher with a 4-0 lead.
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    Re: How much longer do we keep sending Harang out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    I'm tired of the excuses for Harang. He's been one of my favorite Reds but he clearly lacks the stuff to get big league hitters out at this point.

    There's no excuse for walking a pitcher with a 4-0 lead.
    I don't know about that. Every pitch he threw was right, right in or around the zone. Ubaldo had an excellent at-bat.

    I agree his stuff doesn't look like it once did. Today wasn't a good day for him, make no mistake. But the circumstances made it far worse.
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    Re: How much longer do we keep sending Harang out there?

    Replace him with who? Maloney? Volquez? in the end it will be the same thing, the O will need to score 7 to 10 runs to win.
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    Re: How much longer do we keep sending Harang out there?

    But his peripherals are very good this year!

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    Re: How much longer do we keep sending Harang out there?

    How convenient that Volquez threw today in the minors, and can return tomorrow...
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    Re: How much longer do we keep sending Harang out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    I don't know about that. Every pitch he threw was right, right in or around the zone. Ubaldo had an excellent at-bat.

    I agree his stuff doesn't look like it once did. Today wasn't a good day for him, make no mistake. But the circumstances made it far worse.
    He walked the pitcher.

    I don't care if the strike zone is four inches wide, you can't walk the pitcher.

    I could care less if a pitcher hits the ball and happens to knock it somewhere hard. You've got four runs and no excuse.
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    Re: How much longer do we keep sending Harang out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    He walked the pitcher.

    I don't care if the strike zone is four inches wide, you can't walk the pitcher.

    I could care less if a pitcher hits the ball and happens to knock it somewhere hard. You've got four runs and no excuse.
    I don't subscribe to that. If you're up there with a bat in your hands, you're dangerous. Anyone can go up there and, if they connect to a mid 90's fastball, hit a home run.

    I think the whole "you can't walk the pitcher" cliche is overused. It's easy to say throw strikes, but go ahead and groove one and if they hit it 400 feet, you might feel differently.

    Heck, just last week, people were going balistic in the game thread about surrendering hits to the Brewers' pitchers (of which Gallardo is a .300 hitter with 4 homers in 60 at-bats). Can't walk the pitcher. Can't give up hits to the pitcher. Heck, sometimes I wonder if fans would like to even make pitches to the pitcher. Perhaps we just tell the umpire to skip their turn in the lineup.
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    Re: How much longer do we keep sending Harang out there?

    I would rather have Maloney on the bump than Harang at this point. While Maloney isn't a long term answer he is good for at least 6 innings. Harang isn't even good enough for 3 at this point in his career. For the Reds to be contenders the pitching has to get to the sixth inning so we go turn it over to the missle crew in the bullpen.
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