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    A lot of hard hit balls that inning with nothing to show for it. Better for them to go in a team-wide slump now rather than a few weeks from now...
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    If only the Reds had traded EE to the Pirates, they'd be up 7-0 by now.
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    18th game of the year Johnny has left with a lead

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    Brian Burres through seven against the Reeds on 107 pitches, 72 strikes. He gave up one run, 4 hits, 1 BB, and struck out 6.
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    Re: 9/12 - Reds vs Pirates -- Sweep Time! No Bruce/Rolen

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNext44 View Post
    If only the Reds had traded EE to the Pirates, they'd be up 7-0 by now.
    good call
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    Palmer to Ocho, Touchdown!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    Unless you're seeing a different team than I, the Reds haven't been doing much of anything with the bats lately. Heck, they're having a hard time scoring against Morton (9 ERA) and Burres (6 ERA).

    Time to try and manufacture runs. Even when the Reds were hitting, it was the aggressive running that helped aid those large innings that won games for them.
    Well we agree that the offense isn't as potent as the season stats would suggest. Doesn't make that the right play at that moment with that fielder, runner or guys coming up. If my team was struggling to score, the last thing I'd want is to remove a baserunner from scoring position and give an out away.

    Seems to me they were following the exact mantra you were cautioning against. Votto seemingly ran because there was one out. Didn't factor in anythng else IMO and that seems to happen a lot and leads to needless outs and lost baserunners and its my main beef.

    BTW, it seems to happen a lot with Votto and Phillips in particular. In Votto's case its probably because he's on base the most, but there needs to be some thought in the decision and too often it seems like there isn't with this team.
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    The whole baserunning discussion is certainly a fascinating baseball conversation to me at least. I find myself torn sometimes on it too, but it definately is interesting...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reds Freak View Post
    The whole baserunning discussion is certainly a fascinating baseball conversation to me at least. I find myself torn sometimes on it too, but it definately is interesting...
    I think it's fair to say as an overall strategy....the Reds have been more aggressive this year than any in the last 10 years. I love that. They never accept 'station to staion' baseball....and that has been fun to watch.

    If you are not getting thrown out a fair amount on the bases....you are not taking enough chances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    Well we agree that the offense isn't as potent as the season stats would suggest. Doesn't make that the right play at that moment with that fielder, runner or guys coming up. If my team was struggling to score, the last thing I'd want is to remove a baserunner from scoring position and give an out away.

    Seems to me they were following the exact mantra you were cautioning against. Votto seemingly ran because there was one out. Didn't factor in anythng else IMO and that seems to happen a lot and leads to needless outs and lost baserunners and its my main beef.

    BTW, it seems to happen a lot with Votto and Phillips in particular. In Votto's case its probably because he's on base the most, but there needs to be some thought in the decision and too often it seems like there isn't with this team.
    But there isn't a "right" moment. That's all relative and even within relativity it's still subjective. It's a right moment if the increased chances of scoring outweigh the risk of getting out. But within each situation, we can't really say what the risk of being thrown out is, so none of us can truly make that judgment call. We can have an opinion as to whether it's right or wrong, but we can't say with certainty what the "right" and "wrong" moments are.
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    Whew, that was a bit unnerving. I continue to be amazed at Rhodes going out there and gutting it out, he is in obvious pain..
    "In our sundown perambulations of late, through the outer parts of Brooklyn, we have observed several parties of youngsters playing 'base', a certain game of ball. Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms, the game of ball is glorious"
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    Quote Originally Posted by VR View Post
    I think it's fair to say as an overall strategy....the Reds have been more aggressive this year than any in the last 10 years. I love that. They never accept 'station to staion' baseball....and that has been fun to watch.

    If you are not getting thrown out a fair amount on the bases....you are not taking enough chances.
    I hear what your typing, but these philosophical discussions about how agressive a team should be and the game situation overlook the most important factor in deciding whether or not to run. First and foremost in the process is whether the runner is likely to make it. That seems to be secondary. Team likes to run and goes if the situation says its a good time to go. Doesn't seem to matter if the ball hit was the type that allows the fielder to get in a good throwing position or if the runner can actually run. They just run and let the chips fall. While the running game is exciting, there needs to be more to it than just running.
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    Re: 9/12 - Reds vs Pirates -- Sweep Time! No Bruce/Rolen

    Dusty - put Janish or Rolen in to play third base in the ninth inning.

    Thank you.

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    It would be nice to get a few insurance runs for CoCo. Hopefully, he's shaken the rust off now and will not need them.

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    Re: 9/12 - Reds vs Pirates -- Sweep Time! No Bruce/Rolen

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    I hear what your typing, but these philosophical discussions about how agressive a team should be and the game situation overlook the most important factor in deciding whether or not to run. First and foremost in the process is whether the runner is likely to make it. That seems to be secondary. Team likes to run and goes if the situation says its a good time to go. Doesn't seem to matter if the ball hit was the type that allows the fielder to get in a good throwing position or if the runner can actually run. They just run and let the chips fall. While the running game is exciting, there needs to be more to it than just running.
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