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    Anyone else afraid?

    I have numerous concerns...

    1. That St. Louis will get hot these next 2 weeks and we'll be looking at 1999 all over again.

    2. That we are going to be swept in the postseason.

    3. That we are watching this parade of opportunity pass us by. We are losing games that we can win that would allow more distance between us and St.L and give us at least a 1st round home field advantage. Also based on history when are we going to have this opportunity again? Mark my words we will not win this division next year. St.L is pissed and is going to reload. I have seen it before. I don't just want a winning record, I don't just want a Central Division crown, I don't just want to avoid being swept in the playoffs, I don't just want to win a postseason series, I WANT THE DAMN NL PENNANT!!!! Based on the way the team performed in May and August is this really asking too much of them? I think not. I suggest they do some soul searching and get back whatever it was they had in those 2 months or we will be embarassed in the postseason.
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    Re: Anyone else afraid?

    1) no not at all, its basically impossible and would take the reds to play like 4-12 and the cardinals 12-5. Which neither are going to happen.

    2) maybe but who knows. did anyone expect Philly to make it to the WS 2 years ago? Tampa? thats just going back 2 years. Did anyone expect the Dodgers to sweep the Cardinals last year? Nope it all changes in the post season.

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    Re: Anyone else afraid?

    With Garcia skipping a start who else are they going to throw out there. I don't see this happening. I think we will keep at least 4 games between ourselves and the Cards.

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    Re: Anyone else afraid?

    Quote Originally Posted by will5979 View Post
    I have numerous concerns...

    1. That St. Louis will get hot these next 2 weeks and we'll be looking at 1999 all over again.

    What 1999, i can see us pulling a mets and completely being out of the playoffs.

    2. That we are going to be swept in the postseason.

    Making it will be good enough for me, given our history over the past 15 years, i will take this baby step should it happen

    3. That we are watching this parade of opportunity pass us by. We are losing games that we can win that would allow more distance between us and St.L and give us at least a 1st round home field advantage. Also based on history when are we going to have this opportunity again? Mark my words we will not win this division next year. St.L is pissed and is going to reload. I have seen it before. I don't just want a winning record, I don't just want a Central Division crown, I don't just want to avoid being swept in the playoffs, I don't just want to win a postseason series, I WANT THE DAMN NL PENNANT!!!! Based on the way the team performed in May and August is this really asking too much of them? I think not. I suggest they do some soul searching and get back whatever it was they had in those 2 months or we will be embarassed in the postseason.
    reload with what? there budget is already over 100 million and that's without inking Albert to a new deal, they don't have the resources to improve themselves that much. You are wanting to much to soon. You don't go from horrible to great in one season anymore, give it time.

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    Re: Anyone else afraid?

    Wainwright, Carpenter, and Garcia are not going to keep up this level of performance either. This was their year, but their lack of offense hasn't gotten it done.

    Not saying the Cards won't turn it around, but frankly we should be glad that the Cards haven't been able to put it back together, because they owned us this year. Let's just hope the tide turns next year, and we own both them AND the division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaytonFlyer View Post
    Wainwright, Carpenter, and Garcia are not going to keep up this level of performance either. This was their year, but their lack of offense hasn't gotten it done.

    Not saying the Cards won't turn it around, but frankly we should be glad that the Cards haven't been able to put it back together, because they owned us this year. Let's just hope the tide turns next year, and we own both them AND the division.
    We don't have to "own" them as shown this year, you can be dominated by team X as long as you play well overall against most other teams you will be fine.

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    Re: Anyone else afraid?

    i'm a reds fan.. i'm always concerned.. thats how ive been trained

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    Re: Anyone else afraid?

    Not worried about not making the playoffs, but a bit concerned about laying an egg once they're there.
    Sto Pro Veritate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Girevik View Post
    Not worried about not making the playoffs, but a bit concerned about laying an egg once they're there.
    i wish i had your confidence about this team making the playoffs, it is still to close to call and we are not playing well at all. As for the playoffs, we can get swept and i will still be happy.

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    Re: Anyone else afraid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Girevik View Post
    Not worried about not making the playoffs, but a bit concerned about laying an egg once they're there.
    Won't you be just happy with them making it to the playoffs when nobody in their right mind never thought they could?
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    Re: Anyone else afraid?

    I hope they make the playoffs, I'll be happy with whatever happens after that.

    However, one thing I really don't want is for them to be really embarrassed, and then all offseason all the national media will talk about what a fraud they were.

    If they get swept, fine, as long as they play close good games. I just don't want them to play, let's say Philly, and get swept by a combined 35 runs.
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    Re: Anyone else afraid?

    I'm disappointed in the way we're playing lately, but I can't really say I'm overly concerned. We'll win the division, and that will make this an outstanding season. As for the playoffs, we'll have to heat up offensively to make a splash. If we don't, we'll probably lose our first series. But it won't take anything away from the season we've had or the enjoyment I got from it. And the best part is, we have realistic hopes of winning the division again next year.
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    Re: Anyone else afraid?

    How could anyone possibly be worried about making the playoffs? I mean - yeah - you always worry until you clinch - but we have a seven-game lead with fifteen to play. Losing this thing would require St. Louis to suddenly go on the their best stretch of the year and for the Reds to simultaneous tank worse than they have for any stretch of games this year. At this point in time, we are relatively healthy - we have five starters that can keep us in any game; we have a lot of arms in the bullpen and our starting eight is pretty much intact. As long as we keep grinding, we'll win enough games - and St. Louis ain't going 15-2 or anything like that.

    As for the playoffs - anything can happen. I don't love our chances, because, while our starting five is solid, I always bet on the teams that have a couple of starters who can dominate any opposing lineup.

    As for our window of opportunity, I say this: any time you are in a position to make the playoffs - you lay it all on the line because there are no guarantees in sports. Having said that, we have a lot of young guys in the rotation and in the lineup who are on the upswing of their careers. We are in good shape for the future.

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    Re: Anyone else afraid?

    Barring a repeat of the 2007 season with the Phils and Mets, I don't see any reason to believe the Reds will play poorly enough to lose 7 games in the standings with a little over 2 weeks to play.

    The goal right now should be to have either the best or second best record in the national league. Since the wildcard will come from the east or west, the best record team will host the wildcard unless that team's division also has the wildcard in it. So if the Reds are #1, they will have homefield advantage throughout the playoffs, hosting the wildcard first. If they have the second best record, they will either host the wildcard in the first round or the "3rd best record" division winner. In that scenario, no home field is guaranteed in the second round. Look at the road record against the contenders and see how important it is to get home field as much as possible. Remember, the World Series is National League home field this year.

    Next season is a different story. I don't count on anything until it happens with baseball teams. Last season the Cardinals had 91 wins with probably a worse pitching staff. They also didn't have Matt Holliday for an entire season. I don't accept that just because 2010 was a bad one for them that that will be the same in 2011. I look at 2010 as an anomaly for them rather than a trend. I see a much tighter race next season.

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    Re: Anyone else afraid?

    Not worried at all about getting to the post season.

    If the Reds go 7-8 from here on out, the Cards would still have to go 15-2 to tie.

    I've come to terms with the fact that we'll probably get killed in the post season. With a few good moves though, I can see us being even more competitive next year.


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