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    I also feel like they werent even playing for TDs at times. Its like they wanted to just get 3 points every time down and not turn it over. Totally conservative play calling other than 1 pass to TO.
    This was definitely true at the end with the last field goal. I think they trust the defense and don't want to risk a TO there (this is me being charitable).

    I don't know why they haven't gone downfield more, part of me worries the coaching staff doesn't think Palmer has the accuracy to do it consistently anymore. Will be interesting to see if they open it up more against what looks to be a bad Carolina team next week.
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    Re: Week 2- Bengals vs. Ravens

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    I also feel like they werent even playing for TDs at times. Its like they wanted to just get 3 points every time down and not turn it over. Totally conservative play calling other than 1 pass to TO.
    I agree 100%. And that's what really p****s me off. They were playing not to lose. They gave the Ravens so many chances to come back and win. This time, they got lucky. Next time, I don't know. You must knock a team out when you get a chance.
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    Re: Week 2- Bengals vs. Ravens

    Quote Originally Posted by GIDP View Post
    I didnt listen to the radio. I just think the amount of crap Palmer gets no matter how the team plays.

    He throws up a ton of yards, with no running game and hes terrible.

    He doesnt throw any picks, and the team wins and hes terrible.

    I cant wait for a real bad day, or a great day and listen to how overboard the comments get.
    I think everyone misses the Palmer we used to have. He's not even close to where he used to be prior to his knee injury. His accuracy, or lack there of, is mind-boggling.

    He has been absolutely terrible both weeks. Horrible. Last week, when the game mattered, he stunk. All the yards were against a lazy defense protecting a humongous league. Just because his fantasy stats were decent doesn't mean he had a good week. This week, they won, but he was terrible again. He missed so many open throws. And, he was missing them by yards, not feet. This concerns me.

    I hope he doesn't have a day worse than yesterday. If so, no way they win.

    The comments in this thread concerning Palmer have been spot on. I haven't read one that has over-reacted about how poorly he played. I'm a huge Palmer fan, but he has done nothing this year that shows me he's going to take this team to the next level this year.

    I really hope he steps it up next week against a struggling Carolina team.
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    People on here listent to Lance McAllister too much. He used to gripe that Palmer couldn't lead the team to victory (when we has throwing for 300 yards a game), and always said he like Roethlisberger better, even though he didn't have the stats, he "led" his team to victory. Now, Palmer doesn't throw near as much, but the team wins, and he puts on his blog how bad "Superman" Palmer is, and how he gets a free pass. The local talk show circuit drove me to XM, and thank goodness I've got it. People forget, he plays against the Steelers D, and the Ravens D twice a year.
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    I am certainly a big carson backer but he looked very sloppy yesterday. The big miscue to me was the throw to chad in the back of the endzone. Chad had complete separation after the defender slipped and the pass wasn't even close.

    I will give him a benefit of the doubt because I believe Bratkowski is possibly the worst play caller in the NFL. When my friends and I can sit on the couch and tell which play is coming, I can guarantee an opposing defense can as well.

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    Re: Week 2- Bengals vs. Ravens

    Quote Originally Posted by hebroncougar View Post
    People on here listent to Lance McAllister too much. He used to gripe that Palmer couldn't lead the team to victory (when we has throwing for 300 yards a game), and always said he like Roethlisberger better, even though he didn't have the stats, he "led" his team to victory. Now, Palmer doesn't throw near as much, but the team wins, and he puts on his blog how bad "Superman" Palmer is, and how he gets a free pass. The local talk show circuit drove me to XM, and thank goodness I've got it. People forget, he plays against the Steelers D, and the Ravens D twice a year.
    You get two balls in the endzone and Carson's performance looks a whole lot better. But to be honest that has plagued the Carson led Bengals for years. The only time they really scared the end zone was on the deep TO pass which should have been PI. But the throw the Chad was awful, the dump off the Shipply 8 yards short of the goal line was bad, the near int at about the 3 yard line was bad.

    That game reminded me a lot of the Ravens game last season in which the Bengals dominated the entire game, the Ravens broke one big play, and the Bengals were forced to come from behind. The Bengals pretty much dominated every aspect of that game but couldn't score TD's. If you can't score TD's you leave the other team in the game. I thought TO would help that out tremendously but I just don't see it yet.

    As for Brat I wonder how much is him vs how much is Palmer. Some of the run plays are maddening but you have to keep the D honest. Brat went from a great offensive coordinator a couple of years ago to someone no one wants now? I think its a mutual effort between his play calling and his offense's production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    You get two balls in the endzone and Carson's performance looks a whole lot better. But to be honest that has plagued the Carson led Bengals for years. The only time they really scared the end zone was on the deep TO pass which should have been PI. But the throw the Chad was awful, the dump off the Shipply 8 yards short of the goal line was bad, the near int at about the 3 yard line was bad.

    That game reminded me a lot of the Ravens game last season in which the Bengals dominated the entire game, the Ravens broke one big play, and the Bengals were forced to come from behind. The Bengals pretty much dominated every aspect of that game but couldn't score TD's. If you can't score TD's you leave the other team in the game. I thought TO would help that out tremendously but I just don't see it yet.

    As for Brat I wonder how much is him vs how much is Palmer. Some of the run plays are maddening but you have to keep the D honest. Brat went from a great offensive coordinator a couple of years ago to someone no one wants now? I think its a mutual effort between his play calling and his offense's production.

    Agreed. The ball to Chad was a bad pass. But I saw Chad alligator arm one, and drop one as well. Both of those go for first downs if I remember correctly. Bratkowski drive me crazy with his play calling. We've got some weapons on offense, I'd go 3 or 4 wide about 80% of the time and turn them loose.

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    Re: Week 2- Bengals vs. Ravens

    Quote Originally Posted by hebroncougar View Post
    People on here listent to Lance McAllister too much. He used to gripe that Palmer couldn't lead the team to victory (when we has throwing for 300 yards a game), and always said he like Roethlisberger better, even though he didn't have the stats, he "led" his team to victory. Now, Palmer doesn't throw near as much, but the team wins, and he puts on his blog how bad "Superman" Palmer is, and how he gets a free pass. The local talk show circuit drove me to XM, and thank goodness I've got it. People forget, he plays against the Steelers D, and the Ravens D twice a year.
    which is hilarious considering how he insults people non stop for saying Cordero isnt pitching good at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mash3024 View Post
    I am certainly a big carson backer but he looked very sloppy yesterday. The big miscue to me was the throw to chad in the back of the endzone. Chad had complete separation after the defender slipped and the pass wasn't even close.

    I will give him a benefit of the doubt because I believe Bratkowski is possibly the worst play caller in the NFL. When my friends and I can sit on the couch and tell which play is coming, I can guarantee an opposing defense can as well.
    I thought chad if just continued running that ball would have been perfect. It looked like chad wanted to make that more of an amazing catch than it needed to be.

    I will say the one to TO across the middle near the endzone that was almost picked was flat out awful.

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    Re: Week 2- Bengals vs. Ravens

    Quote Originally Posted by hebroncougar View Post
    Agreed. The ball to Chad was a bad pass. But I saw Chad alligator arm one, and drop one as well. Both of those go for first downs if I remember correctly. Bratkowski drive me crazy with his play calling. We've got some weapons on offense, I'd go 3 or 4 wide about 80% of the time and turn them loose.
    Or do something other than 7 yard passes, combined with outside runs for 2 yard losses.

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    Jay Cutler looked pretty bad last season too. Change the offensive coordinator and he is a different man. Hmmm makes you wonder.
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    Re: Week 2- Bengals vs. Ravens

    Quote Originally Posted by GIDP View Post
    I thought chad if just continued running that ball would have been perfect. It looked like chad wanted to make that more of an amazing catch than it needed to be.

    I will say the one to TO across the middle near the endzone that was almost picked was flat out awful.
    From my point of view Chad had to run like that because of the back of the endzone. It just was a poor pass.

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    As for Carolina next week, there has been some rumblings that a QB change could happen with Jimmy Claussen taking over.

    Think the Panthers would want to throw Claussen into the fire after our defense picked off Flacco four times?
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    Re: Week 2- Bengals vs. Ravens

    That was an Ugly AFC North win.

    For those complaining about Palmer, there are legit gripes, but look down the list of quarterbacks, and their play on Sunday. Lots of teams would like to have even THIS version of Palmer over what they have right now.

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    Re: Week 2- Bengals vs. Ravens

    Quote Originally Posted by mlh1981 View Post
    That was an Ugly AFC North win.

    For those complaining about Palmer, there are legit gripes, but look down the list of quarterbacks, and their play on Sunday. Lots of teams would like to have even THIS version of Palmer over what they have right now.
    Agreed. Hopefully, he plays better next week but anything that brings a win against the Ravens or Steelers is good enough for me.

    Compared to the first two weeks, the schedule appears to be very manageable until it ramps up again with the Steelers in Week 9. From that point on the schedule is brutal.
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