1. ## Sunday scenarios

With this evening's San Diego win, my understanding is that with a win tomorrow, they clinch the division (on account of a 12-5 record against San Fran), UNLESS...

Atlanta wins Sunday (I'm assuming a loss tonight).

If San Diego wins & Atlanta loses, San Diego wins the division with San Francisco getting the wildcard. This means San Fran would travel to Philadelphia and Cincinnati would go to San Diego.

However, if Atlanta wins, it forces a 3-way tie, which means San Diego and San Francisco are not guaranteed of both making the playoffs, thereby scrapping the head-to-head record.

My understanding, then, is there would be two (2) one-game playoffs to settle the wildcard & West division. Perhaps someone can clarify how that goes down.

If Atlanta wins and San Francisco wins, Cincinnati will play Philadelphia.

If Atlanta loses and San Francisco wins, Atlanta and San Diego will have a 1-game playoff for the wildcard. Atlanta winning would have the Reds facing Philadelphia. San Diego winning would have them playing San Francisco.

3. ## Re: Sunday scenarios

Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp
With this evening's San Diego win, my understanding is that with a win tomorrow, they clinch the division (on account of a 12-5 record against San Fran), UNLESS...

Atlanta wins Sunday (I'm assuming a loss tonight).

If San Diego wins & Atlanta loses, San Diego wins the division with San Francisco getting the wildcard. This means San Fran would travel to Philadelphia and Cincinnati would go to San Diego.

However, if Atlanta wins, it forces a 3-way tie, which means San Diego and San Francisco are not guaranteed of both making the playoffs, thereby scrapping the head-to-head record.

My understanding, then, is there would be two (2) one-game playoffs to settle the wildcard & West division. Perhaps someone can clarify how that goes down.

If Atlanta wins and San Francisco wins, Cincinnati will play Philadelphia.

If Atlanta loses and San Francisco wins, Atlanta and San Diego will have a 1-game playoff for the wildcard. Atlanta winning would have the Reds facing Philadelphia. San Diego winning would have them playing San Francisco.

Why does a San Diego win not force a 1 game play-off to decide who is the wild card and who is the west champ?

4. ## Re: Sunday scenarios

Originally Posted by mth123
Why does a San Diego win not force a 1 game play-off to decide who is the wild card and who is the west champ?
Because if both the Giants and Padres make the playoffs (which they would with a Braves loss & Padres win), a head-to-head tiebreaker is used instead of a 1-game playoff.

5. ## Re: Sunday scenarios

Here's my post from another thread. Assuming the Phils win over the Braves today, I think this is how it works.

If Giants and Braves win tomorrow, Reds play Philly. Braves would be wild card.

If Giants win tomorrow and Braves lose, then the Giants win the West. The wildcard then would be the winner of a playoff between the Padres and Braves in Atl. If Braves win that game, Reds play Philly. If Pads win that game, Reds play Giants.

If Pads win tomorrow and Braves lose, then the Giants and Pads make the playoffs and the Braves are out. The Pads would win the NL West due to tiebraker with Giants. Reds would then play the Padres in the playoffs. Phils would play the wildcard Giants.

If Pads and Braves both win tomorrow, then it is a three-way tie. The Pads and Giants would playoff Monday for the NL West title. The loser would play in Atlanta Tuesday for the wildcard. If the Braves win the wildcard, Reds play Philly. If the Pads win the wildcard Reds play Giants. If the Giants win the wildcard, Reds play Padres.

6. ## Re: Sunday scenarios

Originally Posted by mth123
Why does a San Diego win not force a 1 game play-off to decide who is the wild card and who is the west champ?
Doesn't work that way. If two teams in the same division both make playoffs, you use head-to-head record to decide champ and wildcard. No playoff.

7. ## Re: Sunday scenarios

Originally Posted by Kc61
Here's my post from another thread. Assuming the Phils win over the Braves today, I think this is how it works.

If Giants and Braves win tomorrow, Reds play Philly. Braves would be wild card.

If Giants win tomorrow and Braves lose, then the Giants win the West. The wildcard then would be the winner of a playoff between the Padres and Braves in Atl. If Braves win that game, Reds play Philly. If Pads win that game, Reds play Giants.

If Pads win tomorrow and Braves lose, then the Giants and Pads make the playoffs and the Braves are out. The Pads would win the NL West due to tiebraker with Giants. Reds would then play the Padres in the playoffs. Phils would play the wildcard Giants.

If Pads and Braves both win tomorrow, then it is a three-way tie. The Pads and Giants would playoff Monday for the NL West title. The loser would play in Atlanta Tuesday for the wildcard. If the Braves win the wildcard, Reds play Philly. If the Pads win the wildcard Reds play Giants. If the Giants win the wildcard, Reds play Padres.
It looks like we're on the same page.

8. ## Re: Sunday scenarios

Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp
It looks like we're on the same page.

Yes, I think we are.

9. ## Re: Sunday scenarios

The Reds don't have home field in any scenario, do they?

10. ## Re: Sunday scenarios

Originally Posted by wheels
The Reds don't have home field in any scenario, do they?
No. Reds open on the road in any scenario.

11. ## Re: Sunday scenarios

Originally Posted by wheels
The Reds don't have home field in any scenario, do they?
No. They are either starting in Philly on Wednesday or San Francisco or San Diego on Thursday.

12. ## Re: Sunday scenarios

Tim Stauffer has been really flying under the radar this year. He knows how to pitch.

13. ## Re: Sunday scenarios

I don't think I can take another West Coast roadtrip.

14. Thanks Brutus and KC. I really wish we had a better September to have home field in the NLDS, but as is, I'm hoping for a Padres win and Braves loss tomorrow. I don't really want the Reds to go to the West Coast, either, but going to San Diego is preferable to going to Philly, IMO.

15. ## Re: Sunday scenarios

The bad thing about the multiple playoff game scenario is the Reds won't know where they are going until sometime Tuesday night if that happens. They would then either need to be in Philly the next day or out west on Thursday.

16. ## Re: Sunday scenarios

Originally Posted by BCubb2003
I don't think I can take another West Coast roadtrip.
Me either. I honestly prefer the Phillies.

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