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    How They Stack Up

    Catcher
    Ruiz v. Hernandez/ Hanigan
    Edge: Ruiz
    Comment: Ruiz is better with the bat, but Hanigan and Hernandez are both superior with the glove. I'm guessing Baker goes with Hernandez all series; Manuel will certainly stick with Ruiz. That may mean the difference in the series. Hopefully, Phillips, Stubbs, and company can run on Ruiz and his 29% CS percentage.

    First Base
    Votto v. Howard
    Edge: Votto
    Comment: How ironic would it be for Votto to win the series against the Phillies? Manuel might not like it, but, hey, he's a moron for picking Howard instead of Votto for the ASB roster anyway, right? Right.

    Second Base
    Phillips v. Utley
    Edge: Utley
    Comment: It's close, largely because Utley hasn't been phenomenal this year. It would have been even closer (perhaps even) had Phillips not been injured and struggled the past three weeks of the season.

    Shortstop
    Cabrera v. Rollins
    Edge: Rollins
    Comment: Even though it's been his worst year statistically, Rollins is still head and shoulders better than OCab. It's not close, nor should it be.

    Third Base
    Rolen v. Polanco
    Edge: Rolen
    Comment: As large as the divide between Cabrera and Rollins. Rolen has been vitally important to Cincinnati. He needs to be the Rolen of the first half for the Reds to have any chance in the series.

    Left Field
    Gomes v. Ibanez
    Edge: Ibanez
    Comment: Barely. Ibanez can't catch up to a fastball anymore and God knows he's had problems in the field, but Gomes grades slightly worse across the board.

    Center Field
    Stubbs v. Victorino
    Edge: Stubbs
    Comment: As close as the left field battle is, this one may be closer. Stubbs holds the edge power and obp by a total of less than 20 points. Both are super fast, and both play really well in the field.

    Right Field
    Bruce v. Werth
    Edge: Bruce
    Comment: Werth's offensive numbers are much better, but Bruce's D wins out. It'll be really interesting to see if Bruce continues to rake, or if he struggles against the hurlers Philly throws at him.

    Bench
    Edge: Cincinnati
    Comment: By a big margin, actually. Sadly, benches won't matter much in a short series with days off between.

    Starters
    Volquez v. Halladay
    Edge: Halladay

    Arroyo v. Oswalt
    Edge: Oswalt

    Cueto v. Hamels
    Edge: Hamels

    Comment: Ouch, and it's not really close at all. Volquez could have a monster game. Halladay is likely to. Oswalt has been Walter Johnson since being dealt. Arroyo doesn't throw as hard as Johnson, and Johnson's 138. And dead. Hamels and Cueto is closest, but Hamels experience and dominance in past playoffs pushes him past the young Red hurler.

    Bullpen
    Edge: Cincinnati
    Comment: The Reds have some monster arms in the pen. Bailey, Masset, Rhodes, Bray, and especially Chapman might mean the difference in a game or two. Chapman in particular could be a HUGE part of the series.

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    I think OC and Rollins is closer than you think. Rollins has been bad this year and is hurt to boot. I'd say that's a wash for the Reds at worst.
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    Re: How They Stack Up

    I don't think utley and Phillips are all that close. Utley gets on base at a really nice rate.

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    SI, I would assume that you'd give the series edge to Phili despite the 6-5 advantage in the breakdown.I think what you have here is very accurate and agree across the board.

    It's too bad Nix and Edmonds have been hurt lately.It was starting to look like they where going to take over for Gomes then the injury bug hit.They still could contribute but it's difficult to say just how much.I did here something about Nix starting the Fri. game.

    It's going to be a difficult series for our Reds but I think they can do it.The key imo is for our starters to keep us in every game.If they can, I think out BP can keep Phili in check late and our offense can pull off 3 comeback wins.

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    The Reds have the better bullpen, but I don't know that its going to matter given the starters that the Phillies have. The bad guys in their bullpen might never pitch an inning, and the back end of their bullpen is looking pretty dominant.

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    Re: How They Stack Up

    The Reds beat Oswalt unmercifully in game two, in a historic performance that balances the scales of fate once and for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    The Reds have the better bullpen, but I don't know that its going to matter given the starters that the Phillies have. The bad guys in their bullpen might never pitch an inning, and the back end of their bullpen is looking pretty dominant.
    If the Reds are going to win three they're going to have to get to the Phillies BP by the 7th in at least two of the games.That's going to be difficult against Halladay or Oswalt but I think the Reds can get to one of those guys in 1 of their 4 starts and I believe it will happen against Hamels in game 3.The Reds will need to pull both those games off.

    I figure the Reds pitchers are going to have to shut the Phillies offense down completely to get their third win.

    Five games in eight days and the dominant Phillies starters will make it difficult for the Reds to take advantage of their BP edge, but we shouldn't assume it won't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tixe View Post
    The Reds beat Oswalt unmercifully in game two, in a historic performance that balances the scales of fate once and for all.
    Just like this?

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...01007240.shtml

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    Re: How They Stack Up

    I'm assuming Hanigan is going to at least catch Arroyo

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    I give the edge to the Reds C.

    I give the edge to Victorino out in CF.

    I think the edge to Rollins is small if anything. Apparently he is battling an injury right now which to me may swing that to a push.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    The Reds have the better bullpen, but I don't know that its going to matter given the starters that the Phillies have. The bad guys in their bullpen might never pitch an inning, and the back end of their bullpen is looking pretty dominant.
    Never trust Brad Lidge in pressure situations. He's the ultimate coin flip. Half the time he's lights out-- the other half is lights out for his team. The rest of that pen, while good, is still much less effective than the Cincinnati pen.

    It'll be really interesting to see how Baker manages his bullpen, and, in particular, his southpaws. I'm guessing Ibanez, Werth, Utley, and Howard will see Bray in their second or third AB, Chapman the one after that, and perhaps Rhodes after that.

    (In fact, Werth hit LH worse than righties by a pretty substantial margin this year (937 v. 881). Both marks are great and small sample size issues abound.)

    I'm guessing he goes Volquez, Arroyo, and Cueto for two ABs or three runs, then turn to Bray (3-6), Ondrusek (7-2), Chapman (3-6), Masset (7-2), Rhodes (3-6), and Cordero, with Wood and Bailey in reserve for one or two batters. This would give the Reds the best chance at keeping the Philadelphia offense in check and shorten each game to innings 1-5 and 9.

    If I'm Philly, I'm keeping Romero in check for Votto, Rolen, Bruce. But he's the only lefty in the pen. Manuel will wait until the seventh inning or later to use him, though, so let's hope Votto and company can bring the lumber early.
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    Re: How They Stack Up

    If the sereis goes 5 games, I like our chances.

    Pitchers going on 3 days rest in the playoffs historically do poorly, and I don't think Oswalt will be any exception.

    The Reds would counter with either Arroyo on 3 days rest (where he actually performs better), or (hopefully) Wood.

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    Re: How They Stack Up

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post

    If I'm Philly, I'm keeping Romero in check for Votto, Rolen, Bruce. But he's the only lefty in the pen. Manuel will wait until the seventh inning or later to use him, though, so let's hope Votto and company can bring the lumber early.
    That trio hit lefties at .867, righties at .932.

    Throw Gomes into the mix (as he may well hit 5th), and the foursome hits lefties at .863, righties at .876.

    That match up probably doesn't play that big for Phillies. Romero generally goes 1-2 batters per game, and if he's in with the game on the line, we have to be satisfied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    If I'm Philly, I'm keeping Romero in check for Votto, Rolen, Bruce. But he's the only lefty in the pen. Manuel will wait until the seventh inning or later to use him, though, so let's hope Votto and company can bring the lumber early.

    They actually have two lefties -- Antonio Bastardo made the NLDS roster over Danys Baez and David Herndon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    That trio hit lefties at .867, righties at .932.

    Throw Gomes into the mix (as he may well hit 5th), and the foursome hits lefties at .863, righties at .876.

    That match up probably doesn't play that big for Phillies. Romero generally goes 1-2 batters per game, and if he's in with the game on the line, we have to be satisfied.
    Which is why the Red bullpen is likely to be more effective than the Phils.
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