I think these missed calls have always been around.
Its just that every game is televised now in High Definition and 19 different camera angles and 60 fps that show everything in great detail millisecond by millisecond.
My comment isn't meant as an excuse, but just more that technology has exposed a long-standing problem.
She used to wake me up with coffee ever morning
Man, the Wendelstadt strikezone plot is just brutal. He was giving up to a foot and a half off the left side of the plate, and he was missing no doubt strikes IN the zone. That takes skill, right there.
And these umpires are supposed to be the best of the best for the postseason.
Phil Castellini puts the FUN in Trust Fund.Originally Posted by BCubb2003
Agreed. It's not that they've gotten worse; I would bet they've actually gotten better. But our ability to evaluate them has never been so refined.
That's why the messaging has to be, "We know that you guys are the best at what you do. But we have tools to help you do even better. You need to use them."
Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
I definitely agree. It's come to the point where everyone else in the world instantly knows an umpire made a mistake, but of course they can't do anything about it. It has to be an odd feeling for an umpire after he makes a controversial call and he has to stand out there knowing that people are staring at him knowing he botched the ball.
If I was an ump I would definitely want technology to correct my blown calls.
Votto for MVP
I don't doubt you a bit. They may be much better. It's just that the technology to see their mistakes are better. Which goes back to the main point I was making. You need to use the technology available to get the calls right. You just can't bury yourself in the sand and say they are human and going to make mistakes. It's true but saying that doesn't justify not using the means available for correction.
Reds Fan Since 1971
Here's my post from the other thread...
Sure we can complain about the umpiring all we want but the fact of the matter is if the Braves would have made plays or scored some runs it would be a moot point. Perhaps the runner was out at second. But don't give the 8th hitter a cookie with the pitcher on deck or tell Omar Infante to field a routine ground ball and it doesn't matter. Perhaps Michael Young didn't check his swing on that pitch (one of the loosest rules in baseball) but don't give up a bomb the next pitch.
The teams that win are making plays and the teams that lose are complaining about the umpires...
"In our sundown perambulations of late, through the outer parts of Brooklyn, we have observed several parties of youngsters playing 'base', a certain game of ball. Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms, the game of ball is glorious"
-Walt Whitman
Yeah, that's not necessarily so. C.B. Bucknor, of all people, was an umpire in the post season last year.
Oh, sorry I didn't realize this discussion was going on in that other thread.
Mods feel free to merge.
Votto for MVP
No, it's good that you made this thread. That was turning into a whole other discussion, and starting to hijack the other thread.
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I'd rather listen to Kelch read the phone book than suffer through Thom Brennaman's attempt to make every instance on the field the most important event since the discovery of manned space flight. -westofyou
CB was a postseason umpire last year? He was a joke at 1B in the recent Reds-Pads series. I even remember Chris Welsh commenting "Maybe CB will get one right at some point today."
Phil Castellini puts the FUN in Trust Fund.
It is the same feeling a player gets when he makes a bone headed play or he makes an error. It is a mistake. It is part of the game. It isn't life or death. You can't change what happened so I try to forget about it and move on.
"Boys, I'm one of those umpires that misses 'em every once in a while so if it's close, you'd better hit it." Cal Hubbard
IIRC,I don't think umpires are chosen for the post season on merit. It's on a rotating basis. Which,if true, is a total joke.
CB was a postseason umpire last year? He was a joke at 1B in the recent Reds-Pads series. I even remember Chris Welsh commenting "Maybe CB will get one right at some point today."
Reds Fan Since 1971
I am sure quota's need to be met also.
Which explains why C.B. is in the post season.
"Boys, I'm one of those umpires that misses 'em every once in a while so if it's close, you'd better hit it." Cal Hubbard
It used to be rotating. Then it was merit. Now I think it's seniority and merit but 70-30 or 80-20 seniority.
I wonder if the umpiring is truly at its all time nadir or if there is just way more discussion due to technology both on (automating certain parts of the games) and off (using internet as a way to spread information) the field.
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