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Thread: First Day of the Hot Stove- 3-Way Proposal

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    First Day of the Hot Stove- 3-Way Proposal

    Well, today is the first official day of the Reds offseason, so might as well fire up the Hot Stove and begin discussing ways to improve the club for next year. As per discussion in another thread, I think many of us believe the Reds will deal at least one starter to plug another hole this offseason. With that said here goes my first ridiculous 3-way trade proposal of the day:

    Reds trade: Yonder Alonso, one of Leake/Cueto/Volquez/Bailey
    Dodgers trade: Matt Kemp, James Loney, Kyle Russell
    Rays trade: Reid Brignac

    Reds get: Matt Kemp, Reid Brignac
    Dodgers get: Yonder Alonso, one of Leake/Cueto/Volquez/Bailey
    Rays get: James Loney, Kyle Russell

    Reds plug big holes at LF and SS (or 2B if BP leaves after 2011 and Cozart or Janish emerge as everyday SS) while dealing from their two biggest surpluses (1B and SP)

    Dodgers shed two huge underachieving disappointments and get younger and a big upgrade in their rotation

    Rays trade from a surplus (MI) to get their replacement for FA-Carlos Pena as well as an OF prospect with the imminent departure of Carl Crawford

    2011 Reds:

    2B Phillips
    SS Brignac
    1B Votto
    LF Kemp
    RF Bruce
    3B Rolen
    CF Stubbs
    C Hernanigan/Mesoraco

    SP Arroyo
    SP Wood
    SP Cueto/Volquez/Bailey/Leake
    SP Cueto/Volquez/Bailey/Leake
    SP Cueto/Volquez/Bailey/Leake

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    Re: First Day of the Hot Stove- 3-Way Proposal

    LA needs offense more than pitching, I think.

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    Re: First Day of the Hot Stove- 3-Way Proposal

    Yonder Alonso + Mike Leake + Chris Valaika for Josh Willingham + Drew Storen

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    Re: First Day of the Hot Stove- 3-Way Proposal

    I'm not seeing the Dodgers listening to anything like that.

    And queue Doug saying Brignac is basically of equal value to Cozart

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    Re: First Day of the Hot Stove- 3-Way Proposal

    Alonso and Leake for Kemp makes too much sense for all parties involved.
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    Re: First Day of the Hot Stove- 3-Way Proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    Yonder Alonso + Mike Leake + Chris Valaika for Josh Willingham + Drew Storen
    That would be a disaster of biblical proportions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosts of 1990 View Post
    Alonso and Leake for Kemp makes too much sense for all parties involved.
    I think Cincy would be buying high on a buy low guy.

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    Re: First Day of the Hot Stove- 3-Way Proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    That would be a disaster of biblical proportions.
    How do you really feel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
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    Re: First Day of the Hot Stove- 3-Way Proposal

    The guy who could be available and I would empty it for would be Greinke.

    Volquez/Alonso/Heisey/minor leaguer for Greinke? If Aviles still can play SS, it might be nice to take a run at him as well.

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    Re: First Day of the Hot Stove- 3-Way Proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Bailey View Post
    I'm not seeing the Dodgers listening to anything like that.
    Um, why?

    Alonso projects better than Loney at this point, and younger and cheaper. In fact, MLBTR posts Loney as a possible non-tender candidate today.

    And Matt Kemp being on the block is well documented. If the Reds are talking about moving a guy like Leake, etc. EVERY team is listening to something like that, particularly for a guy who has fallen out of favor and is on the block.
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    Re: First Day of the Hot Stove- 3-Way Proposal

    Yonder Alonso + Mike Leake + Chris Valaika for Josh Willingham + Drew Storen
    Apparently, Storen is headed back to college.

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    Re: First Day of the Hot Stove- 3-Way Proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Um, why?

    Alonso projects better than Loney at this point, and younger and cheaper. In fact, MLBTR posts Loney as a possible non-tender candidate today.

    And Matt Kemp being on the block is well documented. If the Reds are talking about moving a guy like Leake, etc. EVERY team is listening to something like that, particularly for a guy who has fallen out of favor and is on the block.
    A move like that screams rebuilding, and is based around 2 unproven players. I'm not sure the league is nearly as high on a low-K pitcher like Leake, especially considering he actually walks a fair amount of hitters. Kemp is a year removed from being a 5 win player. I just don't think a move like that would send the right message to their fanbase.

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    Re: First Day of the Hot Stove- 3-Way Proposal

    Actually I think that three way makes more sense if Alonso and Leake were headed to Tampa Bay. They are going to be the ones shedding salary in the offseason.

    Wonder what the odds of getting Seattle to surrender King Felix are? With how much disarray the Mariners are in, they may just want to return to the drawing board and stack up on prospects.
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    Re: First Day of the Hot Stove- 3-Way Proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Bailey View Post
    A move like that screams rebuilding, and is based around 2 unproven players. I'm not sure the league is nearly as high on a low-K pitcher like Leake, especially considering he actually walks a fair amount of hitters. Kemp is a year removed from being a 5 win player. I just don't think a move like that would send the right message to their fanbase.
    The organization is in disarray, and if anything, now is when the Dodgers are going to be rebuilding. Regardless, I didn't say it had to be Leake- could be any of those four that get dealt, and one could argue that such a move would improve the Dodgers right now as well as in the future, especially given how low some people in that organization are on Kemp. I'd consider throwing in Heisey, Frazier or Francisco if it sealed the deal. The Reds with Kemp in LF would be favorites to repeat.
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