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    Post-Hype Sleeper: Homer Bailey

    Figured it would only be appropriate if I posted it

    http://www.rotoauthority.com/2010/10...er-bailey.html

    Bailey's work leading up to his DL stint wasn't amazing - 5.51 ERA, 1.48 WHIP, 7.3 K/9, 3.7 BB/9, 1.24 HR/9 in 50.6 innings across nine starts. But check out what he did after he returned: 3.55 ERA, 1.27 WHIP, 9.1 K/9, 2.9 BB/9, 0.62 HR/9 in 58.3 innings across ten starts. That included nine and ten-strikeout efforts.

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    Re: Post-Hype Sleeper: Homer Bailey

    Is this like tooting your own horn?

    But yeah, after he came back, a case could be easily made he was the Reds' most consistent starter by far. If he extends those post-DL numbers into next season and beyond, he'll be a great pitcher.
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    Re: Post-Hype Sleeper: Homer Bailey

    I hope he does, but didn't he have a similar [actually even better] end of season performance in '09?

    To me its not a question of talent, but of him figuring out how to do this consistently.

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    Re: Post-Hype Sleeper: Homer Bailey

    Didn't he have a stretch similar or better than that at the end of last season? Hopefully its not a sign of inconsistency but actually just further proof his injury at the beginning of the year was what was really hampering him down. The reality is, he may have turned the corner.
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    Re: Post-Hype Sleeper: Homer Bailey

    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
    I hope he does, but didn't he have a similar [actually even better] end of season performance in '09?

    To me its not a question of talent, but of him figuring out how to do this consistently.
    Very similar. Slightly fewer strikeouts and a few more walks.

    This year, after the injury he had 61 Ks and 19 walks in 58 innings

    Last year, in the last 58 innings, he had 53 Ks and 25 walks.

    The ERAs were comparable, though the last 58 innings in 2009 was slightly better than this year. Better FIP, though, to end the year in 2010.
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    Re: Post-Hype Sleeper: Homer Bailey

    Would be really nice, though I wish I could say that we haven't seen this movie before. Not that I don't think he can do it, but he needs to put it together for an extended perio of time.

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    Re: Post-Hype Sleeper: Homer Bailey

    I wish his fastball had a little more movement on it, but he's still got good pretty good "stuff", even with a somewhat straight heater.

    Here's to hoping for a fully healthy 2011 for Homer, because if he can stay healthy the whole year, he could be a candidate for 12-14 wins IMO. He also seems to be a guy who can go up against The Cardinals and hold his own. That's certainly something to like.
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    Re: Post-Hype Sleeper: Homer Bailey

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Bailey View Post
    Figured it would only be appropriate if I posted it

    http://www.rotoauthority.com/2010/10...er-bailey.html
    Homer (the pitcher, not the poster ), showed a tremendous growth in maturity the 2nd half of 2010. I don't know if he had some sort of divine intervention during his DL stint, but he came back looking like a major league pitcher, not just a kid with a great arm.

    It was encouraging to see his velocity spike late in the year.....and even better to see that fantastic playoff appearance.
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    Re: Post-Hype Sleeper: Homer Bailey

    Quote Originally Posted by VR View Post
    Homer (the pitcher, not the poster ), showed a tremendous growth in maturity the 2nd half of 2010. I don't know if he had some sort of divine intervention during his DL stint, but he came back looking like a major league pitcher, not just a kid with a great arm.

    It was encouraging to see his velocity spike late in the year.....and even better to see that fantastic playoff appearance.
    Worst case scenario he looks like he could be a pretty good closer. IF in some impossible way we were able to unload a good portion of Cordero's contract, it could become a real possibility since we already have a ton of guys aiming for the rotation.
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    Re: Post-Hype Sleeper: Homer Bailey

    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
    I hope he does, but didn't he have a similar [actually even better] end of season performance in '09?

    To me its not a question of talent, but of him figuring out how to do this consistently.
    My question is, was he not right all of that time from the start of the year until he went on the DL in May? We all were well aware that he was well over his 'limit' in innings from 2009 and sure enough, he came out flat in 2010.

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    Re: Post-Hype Sleeper: Homer Bailey

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    My question is, was he not right all of that time from the start of the year until he went on the DL in May? We all were well aware that he was well over his 'limit' in innings from 2009 and sure enough, he came out flat in 2010.
    Just looked at the 2010 Verducci list. Had some huge misses this year.

    Felix, Latos, Johnson, Scherzer, Davis.

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    Re: Post-Hype Sleeper: Homer Bailey

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    Just looked at the 2010 Verducci list. Had some huge misses this year.

    Felix, Latos, Johnson, Scherzer, Davis.
    Lets note that he isn't picking them out, its a purely numerical list.

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    Re: Post-Hype Sleeper: Homer Bailey

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Lets note that he isn't picking them out, its a purely numerical list.
    True. However, he did pick the "system", and his name is tied to it. If I invent some system based on my parameters, I can't take all credit when it's right, and blame the system when it's wrong.

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    Re: Post-Hype Sleeper: Homer Bailey

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Bailey View Post
    True. However, he did pick the "system", and his name is tied to it. If I invent some system based on my parameters, I can't take all credit when it's right, and blame the system when it's wrong.
    I don't think that he does either of those things at all though. His name is on the system, but he is far from the only person who is a believer in it. Teams certainly abide by it for the most part as well. They do so because there is something to it.

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    Re: Post-Hype Sleeper: Homer Bailey

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I don't think that he does either of those things at all though. His name is on the system, but he is far from the only person who is a believer in it. Teams certainly abide by it for the most part as well. They do so because there is something to it.
    I wonder if they truly believe it or if they know that they want to limit someone and use this arbitrary number b/c they don't want to hear about this "known" threshold that they blew through.


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