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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    This is a year where the SEC is weak....extremely weak, and every team in that conference is sure to lose their Bowl game as proof of it at the end of the season, even those teams that have "home" Bowl games.
    It's tough to take such misplaced hyperbole seriously. For instance, the statement above doesn't even jive with your own favorite metric guru's rankings.
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    Re: Is Auburn overrated?

    While I believe the SEC is the best conference, it would be nice if their teams scheduled some cross-sectional non-conference games. Tennessee has done this in the past and Alabama will visit Penn State in '11. SEC teams get the built-in advantage of having bowl games played in their region (and many times in their home state). I think we'd get a much more accurate picture of which conference is better if SEC teams did some real traveling in their non-conference schedules.

    That's also hope that if a playoff does occur, it goes along the same lines of the other NCAA divisions' playoff systems where the higher seed hosts. It would be interesting to see Southern schools have to come North in December or January every once in a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    It's tough to take such misplaced hyperbole seriously. For instance, the statement above doesn't even jive with your own favorite metric guru's rankings.
    When they face Big-Ten, Pac-10, Big-12 or TCU/Boise State in a Bowl game, they will lose them all, even the Orange and Sugar Bowls, where they should have home field advantages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRat13 View Post
    While I believe the SEC is the best conference, it would be nice if their teams scheduled some cross-sectional non-conference games. Tennessee has done this in the past and Alabama will visit Penn State in '11. SEC teams get the built-in advantage of having bowl games played in their region (and many times in their home state). I think we'd get a much more accurate picture of which conference is better if SEC teams did some real traveling in their non-conference schedules.
    Exactly. It's not asking that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IslandRed View Post
    I had just had to gig you about singling out FSU because their historical reputation is the polar opposite of "ducks tough non-conference games," so if that's your perception, either you're getting them confused with someone else or your sense of college football history doesn't go back very far. FSU made its reputation on intersectional road wins.

    But since you asked, just in the past four years they've traveled to Oklahoma, Colorado, and BYU, and played Alabama at a neutral site. And that doesn't count playing Florida, which is still a tough road game even if it is within state borders. If you need the rest of the chapter and verse, I'll be happy to provide it. : But if you want to see it, I'll send it via PM, since this is an Auburn thread, not a Florida State thread.
    I looked it up and those are viable non-conference road games. Florida State should get credit for that. Too many teams that battle for the National Title aren't willing to do that. The trend seems to be getting worse.

    Once again, an eight-game playoff would eliminate this. Ironically, it's the President of the Pac-10 who is the most against this happening. The President(s) of the Pac-10 has always been idiots when it comes to competitive balancing and scheduling, opting to vote against or not even bring up conference playoffs in basketball until years after being eliminated in first rounds in the NCAA's year after year after year. When it comes to being progressive in sports "competition", those in charge of making the decisions for the Pac-10 sports are more often behind the times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    When they face Big-Ten, Pac-10, Big-12 or TCU/Boise State in a Bowl game, they will lose them all, even the Orange and Sugar Bowls, where they should have home field advantages.
    You certainly seem sincere in your hope that the great Pac10 will rise from the pumpkin patch and shower fans with toys.
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    Exactly. It's not asking that much.
    Unfortunately given your standard, Oregon needs to turn down their invitation to a BCS bowl game if they get one....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    When they face Big-Ten, Pac-10, Big-12 or TCU/Boise State in a Bowl game, they will lose them all, even the Orange and Sugar Bowls, where they should have home field advantages.
    FCB was the leader in the clubhouse for most ridiculous post of the year. He is now in 2nd place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRat13 View Post
    While I believe the SEC is the best conference, it would be nice if their teams scheduled some cross-sectional non-conference games. Tennessee has done this in the past and Alabama will visit Penn State in '11. SEC teams get the built-in advantage of having bowl games played in their region (and many times in their home state). I think we'd get a much more accurate picture of which conference is better if SEC teams did some real traveling in their non-conference schedules.
    I agree. That would be nice.

    But let's not forget this is a business. And teams like UGa, Florida, South Carolina, and Kentucky have to play in-state rivals on the road every other year. Unfortunately, these schools just aren't going to give up the chance to have a home game, even if it is against a weaker opponent, just to boost their strength of schedule.
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    Re: Is Auburn overrated?

    Also... in '11, LSU will be playing Oregon in Dallas and at Morgantown, WV. Auburn will be @ Clemson. Ole Miss will be @ Fresno. Tennessee will be @ UNC.

    And in the recent past, Arky has played Texas A+M in Dallas, @ Texas, LSU @ UW, USC @ NC State, Auburn @ WVU, UGa @ AZ St.
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    Unfortunately given your standard, Oregon needs to turn down their invitation to a BCS bowl game if they get one....

    Why? They traditionally schedule difficult non-conference road games. They schedule more in a 3-year stretch than Alabama or Auburn does in a 7-year stretch.

    Next year they have road games @ Colorado and in Dallas vs LSU.

    This year was @ Tennessee (which was projected as a Top-10 team at the time of scheduling).
    Last year was @ Boise State (w/ home games vs. Utah and Purdue instead of some II-A school).
    The year before @ Purdue (as part of the home-and-home, while also hosting Boise State as part of the home-and-home).
    The year before that @ Michigan.

    The list goes on and on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    Why?
    Because they haven't played anybody this year.... Given your standards, they are a fraud this season. They've beaten up on teams collectively sporting a 34-51 record coming into today. Fluffy. If they get an invite to the BCS championship, you should be loudly calling for them to decline based upon the standards you've argued. I think that would be absurd but it's the logical extension of your arguments.

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    This year was @ Tennessee (which was projected as a Top-10 team at the time of scheduling).
    That's absolutely ludicrous to suggest a team was projected to be ranked at any position four seasons before the actual game is to be played. Over that stretch the Vols didn't finish in the top 10 BTW. Coming into the season, the Vols program was in flux and expected to have a big drop off defensively due to departures and given the youth on both sides of the ball. On paper, it looked like a gift of a foray into SEC going into this season. The Ducks went into Knoxville something like 13.5 pt favorites. Seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    Why? They traditionally schedule difficult non-conference road games. They schedule more in a 3-year stretch than Alabama or Auburn does in a 7-year stretch.

    Next year they have road games @ Colorado and in Dallas vs LSU.

    This year was @ Tennessee (which was projected as a Top-10 team at the time of scheduling).
    Last year was @ Boise State (w/ home games vs. Utah and Purdue instead of some II-A school You mean like Portland State?).
    The year before @ Purdue (as part of the home-and-home, while also hosting Boise State as part of the home-and-home).
    The year before that @ Michigan.

    The list goes on and on.
    I can't remember the last time I saw a position staked that could be so easily be torn limb from limb. The SEC is weak? Please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    Because they haven't played anybody this year.... Given your standards, they are a fraud this season. They've beaten up on teams collectively sporting a 34-51 record coming into today. Fluffy. If they get an invite to the BCS championship, you should be loudly calling for them to decline based upon the standards you've argued. I think that would be absurd but it's the logical extension of your arguments.



    That's absolutely ludicrous to suggest a team was projected to be ranked at any position four seasons before the actual game is to be played. Over that stretch the Vols didn't finish in the top 10 BTW. Coming into the season, the Vols program was in flux and expected to have a big drop off defensively due to departures and given the youth on both sides of the ball. On paper, it looked like a gift of a foray into SEC going into this season. The Ducks went into Knoxville something like 13.5 pt favorites. Seriously.
    You couldn't be more wrong on every account.

    When the Tennessee game was scheduled, they were a Top-10 program in the country. Why you're talking about what expectations were for this year I have no idea. Speak about what they were at the time the game was scheduled. That's all that matters.

    Stanford has one of the best teams in the Country and will defeat whoever they play in their Bowl game. The Ducks handled them easily.

    The Ducks went into USC and and handled them easily. Road games of 1000 miles are difficult, especially against teams that see you every year.

    Auburn plays @ Mississippi State, a distance of about 50 miles...not exactly traveling, and they squeak by with a 3-point win. Auburn has had 8 home games and only 3 road games so far this season. That's a joke. They play @ Kentucky...again, not very far away, and they squeak by that game with a 3-point win.

    With their next two games on the Road, Auburn will show their true colors and lose one, if not both games.

    Oregon will travel another long distance in their BCS title game and beat whoever they have to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    You couldn't be more wrong on every account.

    When the Tennessee game was scheduled, they were a Top-10 program in the country. Why you're talking about what expectations were for this year I have no idea. Speak about what they were at the time the game was scheduled. That's all that matters.

    Stanford has one of the best teams in the Country and will defeat whoever they play in their Bowl game. The Ducks handled them easily.

    The Ducks went into USC and and handled them easily. Road games of 1000 miles are difficult, especially against teams that see you every year.

    Auburn plays @ Mississippi State, a distance of about 50 miles...not exactly traveling, and they squeak by with a 3-point win. Auburn has had 8 home games and only 3 road games so far this season. That's a joke. They play @ Kentucky...again, not very far away, and they squeak by that game with a 3-point win.

    With their next two games on the Road, Auburn will show their true colors and lose one, if not both games.

    Oregon will travel another long distance in their BCS title game and beat whoever they have to play.
    Just stop it already. Please brush up on your geography and you do realize that air travel is now possible?
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