Turn Off Ads?
Page 8 of 48 FirstFirst ... 45678910111218 ... LastLast
Results 106 to 120 of 712

Thread: 2011/2012 UC Basketball official thread

  1. #106
    SERP Emeritus paintmered's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2001
    Location
    Cbus
    Posts
    7,048

    Re: 2010/2011 UC Basketball official thread

    Cincy starts to find their bearings from outside, drains a pair of threes and cuts the deficit to 9.
    What if this wasn't a rhetorical question?

    All models are wrong. Some of them are useful.

  2. Turn Off Ads?
  3. #107
    SERP Emeritus paintmered's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2001
    Location
    Cbus
    Posts
    7,048

    Re: 2010/2011 UC Basketball official thread

    UC is working hard, but the shots aren't falling and Syracuse seemingly does everything well. If it wasn't for UC forcing turnovers, they'd be down by 18 right now.
    What if this wasn't a rhetorical question?

    All models are wrong. Some of them are useful.

  4. #108
    SERP Emeritus paintmered's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2001
    Location
    Cbus
    Posts
    7,048

    Re: 2010/2011 UC Basketball official thread

    Lead down to five...
    What if this wasn't a rhetorical question?

    All models are wrong. Some of them are useful.

  5. #109
    The Boss dougdirt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    35,447

    Re: 2010/2011 UC Basketball official thread

    That did not end well (or start well in the second half).

  6. #110
    Member Cedric's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Monroe
    Posts
    6,398

    Re: 2010/2011 UC Basketball official thread

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    That did not end well (or start well in the second half).
    UC plays without poise more than any team I have ever watched.

    Is that the basketball Iq of the players or is that the coach? And Yancy Gates is marshmallow soft on the bball court.
    This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.

  7. #111
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Milford, Clifton
    Posts
    1,585

    Re: 2010/2011 UC Basketball official thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric View Post
    UC plays without poise more than any team I have ever watched.

    Is that the basketball Iq of the players or is that the coach? And Yancy Gates is marshmallow soft on the bball court.
    People need to remember that it isn't easy to play with "poise" @Vill and @Syracuse...both teams play incredible defenses and in tough arenas vs top 10 teams...they'll make you look stupid.

    Everyone needs to stay calm..the Cats will be fine.
    Follow me on twitter @EricLilly7

  8. #112
    Member Cedric's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Monroe
    Posts
    6,398

    Re: 2010/2011 UC Basketball official thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NorrisHopper30 View Post
    People need to remember that it isn't easy to play with "poise" @Vill and @Syracuse...both teams play incredible defenses and in tough arenas vs top 10 teams...they'll make you look stupid.

    Everyone needs to stay calm..the Cats will be fine.
    Based on what? His teams have played this way for 4 years straight.

    I expect them to collapse like always. They weren't tested enough in the non conference schedule to know how to compete against real talented teams.
    This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.

  9. #113
    Waitin til next year bucksfan2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Cincinnati
    Posts
    10,182

    Re: 2010/2011 UC Basketball official thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric View Post
    Based on what? His teams have played this way for 4 years straight.
    These collapses have been playing just well enough to lose and then losing to teams you never should lose to. Syracuse and Nova are tough teams to play, especially away but that doesn't mean you can't beat them. That doesn't mean you can't play better against them. I don't want to hear anything about moral victories coming out of this game.

    I expect them to collapse like always. They weren't tested enough in the non conference schedule to know how to compete against real talented teams.
    There preseason schedule was a joke, an absolute joke. They weren't tested one bit in the non conference schedule and it is really showing. If UC doesn't make the tournament then I hope Mick gets his walking papers.

  10. #114
    Member Reds4Life's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    3,932

    Re: 2010/2011 UC Basketball official thread

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    If UC doesn't make the tournament then I hope Mick gets his walking papers.
    If they miss the tournament, then I agree with you, he should be dumped. Having said that, I don't see it happening. The AD is broke, I have no idea what his buyout is, but if it's more than $100k, I don't see them doing it.

    The lay of the land in the Big East works against them to, IMO. You'd have to hire a big name guy to compete for the top 1/3 of this league on a regular basis. That presents two problems, 1) They have no money for a big name coach 2) No big name coach would want to take over this program anyway. As for hiring a young guy, I get they have egos, but I think you'd be committing career suicide. It's hard to come into a league where 25% of the teams have a coach that's already in the HOF, and a few others have coaches that will be in the HOF. That doesn't even mention other things, like some of the guys combined have a truckload of Final 4 appearances. That's a tough road to hoe for a young coach, nearly impossible without a ton of luck, IMO.
    Pessimists are well informed optimists

  11. #115
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Posts
    651

    Re: 2010/2011 UC Basketball official thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NorrisHopper30 View Post
    People need to remember that it isn't easy to play with "poise" @Vill and @Syracuse...both teams play incredible defenses and in tough arenas vs top 10 teams...they'll make you look stupid.

    Everyone needs to stay calm..the Cats will be fine.
    Does the same sort of excuse apply to Notre Dame?

    In all honesty, I didn't expect them to beat Villanova or Syracuse but you can't help but be discouraged by how the games transpired. They were out of both games early and despite trying to claw back to respectability, neither game was ever really in question.

    At some point if UC wants to be considered a big time program they're going to have to start being competitive in hostile environments and start winning games. It's way too early to draw any conclusions but this performance looks a whole lot like the ones we've seen in the past few years.
    Last edited by nmculbreth; 01-19-2011 at 07:51 PM.

  12. #116
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Milford, Clifton
    Posts
    1,585

    Re: 2010/2011 UC Basketball official thread

    Quote Originally Posted by nmculbreth View Post
    Does the same sort of excuse apply to Notre Dame?

    In all honesty, I didn't expect them to beat Villanova or Syracuse but you can't help but be discouraged by how the games transpired. They were out of both games early and despite trying to claw back to respectability, neither game was ever really in question.

    At some point if UC wants to be considered a big time program they're going to have to start being competitive in hostile environments and start winning games. It's way too early to draw any conclusions but this performance looks a whole lot like the ones we've seen in the past few years.
    I wouldn't call it an excuse to lose to three top 15 games away from home...

    I'm a little worried by how we've played, but the fact is a loss is a loss and I was expecting to be 4-3 after this road trip ended...so cheers to beating St Johns.
    Follow me on twitter @EricLilly7

  13. #117
    Et tu, Brutus? Brutus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Atlanta, Ga.
    Posts
    10,568

    Re: 2010/2011 UC Basketball official thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NorrisHopper30 View Post
    I wouldn't call it an excuse to lose to three top 15 games away from home...

    I'm a little worried by how we've played, but the fact is a loss is a loss and I was expecting to be 4-3 after this road trip ended...so cheers to beating St Johns.
    Good teams go on the road and win 1 or 2 of those games. Even if not, good teams don't go on the road and lose all three by double digits.

    I forgot to make the wager back when we were discussing it, but I really don't think UC makes the tournament. They still don't have a single win against a team that's going to be in the NCAA (except for the outside possibility Xavier gets in).

    Think about the above statement for a moment, then consider it's already January 20.
    "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

  14. #118
    Be the ball Roy Tucker's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    Mason, OH
    Posts
    12,174

    Re: 2010/2011 UC Basketball official thread

    What's frustrating is that UC has show they can be competitive on the road. They play well for fairly long stretches. But they also can hit an 8-10 minute stretch where they play timidly and afraid and get themselves in a big hole. Which in the Big East on the road, you just can't do.

    Gates needs to learn how to play the post. With that body and ability, there is no reason he should shy away from low post contact which he did repeatedly last night. Instead, he backs out after one bump and passes off or else shoots that doofus one-foot jumper.

    And Kilpatrick needs to play more. He's the only real scorer they have.

    Pay attention to the open sky

  15. #119
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    Indianapolis, IN
    Posts
    7,194

    Re: 2010/2011 UC Basketball official thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    Good teams go on the road and win 1 or 2 of those games. Even if not, good teams don't go on the road and lose all three by double digits.

    I forgot to make the wager back when we were discussing it, but I really don't think UC makes the tournament. They still don't have a single win against a team that's going to be in the NCAA (except for the outside possibility Xavier gets in).

    Think about the above statement for a moment, then consider it's already January 20.
    I'll take that bet.
    I don't think we've learned anything either way about this team. They've beaten the teams they were supposed to beat, and done it soundly. They've lost to teams they would be expected to lose to, and soundly.

    Has anyone beaten Syracuse, Villanova, or Notre Dame in their respective home arenas yet?
    When people say that I donít know what Iím talking about when it comes to sports or writing, I think: Man, you should see me in the rest of my life.
    ---Joe Posnanski

  16. #120
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Milford, Clifton
    Posts
    1,585

    Re: 2010/2011 UC Basketball official thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    Good teams go on the road and win 1 or 2 of those games. Even if not, good teams don't go on the road and lose all three by double digits.

    I forgot to make the wager back when we were discussing it, but I really don't think UC makes the tournament. They still don't have a single win against a team that's going to be in the NCAA (except for the outside possibility Xavier gets in).

    Think about the above statement for a moment, then consider it's already January 20.
    Good point dude...Syr/Vill/ND are undefeated at home and the top 10 in the Big East are a whopping 29-2 at home. "GOOD" teams don't go and steal games vs top teams at home...the teams that do the stealing are the great teams like Syr, Vill and Pitt and even they got knocked around this weekend on the road.
    Follow me on twitter @EricLilly7


Turn Off Ads?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!


RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball


Contact us: Boss | GIK | BCubb2003 | dabvu2498 | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | Plus Plus | RedlegJake | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25