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    Official GM Meetings Thread

    Thought it would convenient to have a thread of the on goings of the GM Meetings that start today in Orlando.
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    Re: Official GM Meetings Thread

    I'll actually be at Disney World Thursday and Friday (15-hour drive tomorrow). Huh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfan320 View Post
    I'll actually be at Disney World Thursday and Friday (15-hour drive tomorrow). Huh.

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    Shouldn't you be in school?
    Home-schooled... you have no idea how often I get that.

    We'll only be in WDW for 2 days... then 3 weeks on the beach.

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    Re: Official GM Meetings Thread

    According to rotoworld.com, the D-Backs are listening to offers for Justin Upton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfan320 View Post
    Home-schooled... you have no idea how often I get that.

    We'll only be in WDW for 2 days... then 3 weeks on the beach.

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    Re: Official GM Meetings Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool View Post
    According to rotoworld.com, the D-Backs are listening to offers for Justin Upton.
    Wow! You'd think you'd want to build a team around your young talent.. Reds have SP & Infield Depth.

    Travis Wood, Todd Frazier, and Yonder Alonzo?
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    Re: Official GM Meetings Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar View Post
    Wow! You'd think you'd want to build a team around your young talent.. Reds have SP & Infield Depth.

    Travis Wood, Todd Frazier, and Yonder Alonzo?
    They would probably insist on Stubbs, in addition to that package.

    I'd still do that deal.
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    Re: Official GM Meetings Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfan320 View Post
    Home-schooled... you have no idea how often I get that.

    We'll only be in WDW for 2 days... then 3 weeks on the beach.

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    Re: Official GM Meetings Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool View Post
    They would probably insist on Stubbs, in addition to that package.

    I'd still do that deal.
    Going forward, I don't see that big of a difference between Stubbs and Upton. There's a difference, just not a Wood, Frazier and Alonso difference, especially when you factor in contracts and length of team control.
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    Re: Official GM Meetings Thread

    Agree.
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    Re: Official GM Meetings Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNext44 View Post
    Going forward, I don't see that big of a difference between Stubbs and Upton. There's a difference, just not a Wood, Frazier and Alonso difference, especially when you factor in contracts and length of team control.
    I wouldn't do the deal without getting a crack at offering Upton an LTC first. But Upton is distinctly better now, and has an off-the-charts, Griffey-esque upside.

    Upton is nearly three years younger than Stubbs, and has put up better numbers than Stubbs at a younger age at all levels of play.

    Stubbs had a .765 OPS in the minors, compared to Upton's .854 OPS.
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    Re: Official GM Meetings Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool View Post
    I wouldn't do the deal without getting a crack at offering Upton an LTC first. But Upton is distinctly better now, and has an off-the-charts, Griffey-esque upside.

    Upton is nearly three years younger than Stubbs, and has put up better numbers than Stubbs at a younger age at all levels of play.

    Stubbs had a .765 OPS in the minors, compared to Upton's .854 OPS.
    Per Cot's

    Justin Upton
    6 years/$51.25M (2010-15)
    signed extension with Arizona 3/3/10
    $1.25M signing bonus
    10:$0.5M, 11:$4.25M, 12:$6.75M, 13:$9.75M, 14:$14.25M, 15:$14.5M
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    Re: Official GM Meetings Thread

    Per Jon Heyman on Twitter:
    francisco cordero available. #reds may even chip in a few dollars
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Official GM Meetings Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Per Jon Heyman on Twitter:
    "May"? More like "will absolutely have to."
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