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    Gardenhire wins AL, Bud Black edges Dusty by 1 vote for NL Mgr of the Year

    That's a shame - I think Baker deserved it.

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    Re: Gardenhire wins AL, Bud Black edges Dusty by 1 vote for NL Mgr of the Year

    Mods, you can close mine out. Chip & I hit it at the exact same time.
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    Re: Gardenhire wins AL, Bud Black edges Dusty by 1 vote for NL Mgr of the Year

    Kieth Law could be a person to wag the finger at regarding this...

    Per Kieth Law's twitter:

    Correct. Can't slag arms and make my ballot. RT @DanielRathman: Is it also safe to assume that Dusty Baker did not make your NL MoY ballot?

    Not sure how Dusty did any more "arm slagging" than Bud Black did, considering that Black used the entire back end of his bullpen like 7 games in a row to close out the season...
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    Re: Gardenhire wins AL, Bud Black edges Dusty by 1 vote for NL Mgr of the Year

    Quote Originally Posted by Plus Plus View Post
    Kieth Law could be a person to wag the finger at regarding this...

    Per Kieth Law's twitter:

    Correct. Can't slag arms and make my ballot. RT @DanielRathman: Is it also safe to assume that Dusty Baker did not make your NL MoY ballot?

    Not sure how Dusty did any more "arm slagging" than Bud Black did, considering that Black used the entire back end of his bullpen like 7 games in a row to close out the season...
    Keith Law is a lazy "journalist".

    It's pathetic honestly that the guy gets paid to write about this sport. There are over 50 people on this site alone that know more about baseball than him.
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    Re: Gardenhire wins AL, Bud Black edges Dusty by 1 vote for NL Mgr of the Year

    Black did more with less than any manager in baseball. Kudos to him.
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    Re: Gardenhire wins AL, Bud Black edges Dusty by 1 vote for NL Mgr of the Year

    Darn, was really hoping Dusty would get it.
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    Re: Gardenhire wins AL, Bud Black edges Dusty by 1 vote for NL Mgr of the Year

    I was unaware of this till just now...but the Reds lead MLB in total WAR (batters) from their team this year.

    So yeah, I will agree Black did more with less...but what does that mean exactly.

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    Re: Gardenhire wins AL, Bud Black edges Dusty by 1 vote for NL Mgr of the Year

    They both did enough to deserve it, IMO. Hard to be upset. I wanted it for Dusty, but Black was every bit as deserving.

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    Re: Gardenhire wins AL, Bud Black edges Dusty by 1 vote for NL Mgr of the Year

    Here's hoping that leading a team to the playoffs trumps all else in another award coming up!
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    Re: Gardenhire wins AL, Bud Black edges Dusty by 1 vote for NL Mgr of the Year

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    I was unaware of this till just now...but the Reds lead MLB in total WAR (batters) from their team this year.

    So yeah, I will agree Black did more with less...but what does that mean exactly.
    A $36M payroll, and only one true All-Star. That's a lot less. He also played in a tougher division.

    Still, Dusty has to be happy with a second place Manager of the Year vote, considering he was probably the first manager to be fired on many people's pre-season list.
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    Re: Gardenhire wins AL, Bud Black edges Dusty by 1 vote for NL Mgr of the Year

    Congrats on a successful season Dusty.

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    Re: Gardenhire wins AL, Bud Black edges Dusty by 1 vote for NL Mgr of the Year

    I like Bud Black as a manager, but let's be honest; there are a lot of people out there who vote on awards such as this who do not like Dusty. I would even say that many writers are predisposed to denigrate his accomplishments without consciously realizing why they're doing it.

    No conpiracy theory, no real whining, just a realistic look at the situation. I think it's a really big deal that Dusty came as close as he did. Congratulations.

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    Re: Gardenhire wins AL, Bud Black edges Dusty by 1 vote for NL Mgr of the Year

    Baker, Bochy or Black.

    I'd have been OK with any one of these three winning the award.

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    Re: Gardenhire wins AL, Bud Black edges Dusty by 1 vote for NL Mgr of the Year

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Madden View Post
    Baker, Bochy or Black.

    I'd have been OK with any one of these three winning the award.
    Really surprised at how few votes Bochy got. It's not like the Gisnts on paper were that much better than the Padres.
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    Re: Gardenhire wins AL, Bud Black edges Dusty by 1 vote for NL Mgr of the Year

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNext44 View Post
    A $36M payroll, and only one true All-Star. That's a lot less. He also played in a tougher division.

    Still, Dusty has to be happy with a second place Manager of the Year vote, considering he was probably the first manager to be fired on many people's pre-season list.
    No, I think Jerry Manuel was higher on the "to be fired" list than Dusty


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