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    Brewers get Marcum

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5890574

    He's a near ace switching leagues. If he can stay healthy, the Brewers just added a strong piece to their rotation.
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    Re: Bewers get Marcum

    Very good move by the Brewers. Marcum is a stud and while Lawrie has big upside, there are questions about his commitment to being as good as he can be. Brewers actually drafted him in part b/c he said he'd give catching a go - then changed his mind when he showed up at camp.
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    Re: Bewers get Marcum

    Great trade by the Brewers. Marcum is a very solid pitcher and the change in leagues should benefit him.
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    Re: Bewers get Marcum

    Perhaps I misread the quote, but didn't the TOR brass say they believe the jays are a Zach Grienke away from catching the Red Sox? And now they trade away Marcum?

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    Re: Bewers get Marcum

    Shame we didn't have another Encarnación to send their way.l
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    Re: Bewers get Marcum

    Not that familiar with Marcum, but is Cueto (excluding age) a fair comparison to him, numbers wise?

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    Re: Bewers get Marcum

    Marcum is a bit better and significantly more injury prone than Cueto.

    Numbers-wise, they are fairly similar.
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    Re: Bewers get Marcum

    I don't think Marcum has any fit in Cincinnati, but it's another really quality pitcher that we're going to be facing now a few more times a year. He has lights out stuff. Brewers got better with this acquisition.
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    Re: Bewers get Marcum

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosts of 1990 View Post
    I don't think Marcum has any fit in Cincinnati, but it's another really quality pitcher that we're going to be facing now a few more times a year. He has lights out stuff. Brewers got better with this acquisition.
    Doesn't he top out in the high 80's?

    His K/rate doesn't suggest "lights out stuff"

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    Re: Bewers get Marcum

    Marcum has a really nasty changeup and cutter that are death on left-handed hitters. In 2010, Marcum held lefties to a .530 OPS in 386 atbats while right-handed hitters had an .861 OPS in 361 atbats against him. He's so tough on lefties, at times, switch-hitters were batting RH against him.
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    Re: Bewers get Marcum

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    Doesn't he top out in the high 80's?

    His K/rate doesn't suggest "lights out stuff"
    He's had Tommy John surgery though so he can shoot lightning bolts outta his booty.

    Concerning his stuff, he's got above average peripherals (make 'em miss/command) and his repertoire allows him to get both lefties and righties out though righties get more dingers.
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    Re: Bewers get Marcum

    Marcum is a quality pitcher -- a very strong #3, or a decent #2. Good K/BB, especially last season (3.84). Weird splits last year - on the road, he allowed more HR (15) than BB (14).
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    Re: Bewers get Marcum

    Since when are Opening Day starters only worth one AA player? I'd like to get in on that. I thought pitching was an expensive commodity.

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    Re: Bewers get Marcum

    It's pretty clear the division is trying to close the gap between the Reds and them, trying to match up better against them. Marcum vs. LHH and the Cards got a guy who is pretty tough on LHH's as well with Tallet who has given up just the one single in 7 tries vs. Votto and Bruce with 3 K's (all vs. Votto). Not that they worry me but it would be nice to have that big RH thumper between the 2 of these guys.
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    Re: Bewers get Marcum

    The Jays are somewhat like the Reds, lots of young SP's and depth at AAA. How they are different? 18 games against the Yankees, Rays and Red Sox.
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