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    Keep Yonder Alonso?

    If Joey Votto decides not to be here long term do you think it would be in the best interest for the team to keep Alonso as a back-up plan at first base. I mean I know it seems trading him is what everyone wants to do right now, but it might just be in the best interest of the team to keep him around as a bench player this year and seeing if he will be worth letting Joey go sign somewhere else for tons of money. None of us want to see Joey go, but the reality of the world tells us that we more than likely won't be able to afford keeping him long term and keeping a big enough payroll to stay competitive. Especially after seeing what Adrian Gonzalez is asking for and what Jason Werth got paid to play in Washington. Just a thought.

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    Re: Keep Yonder Alonso?

    I say you do the following:
    Trade Yonder (and a few others) now and make this team better (now) by adding elite or close to it player(s).
    Votto is here for a at least 3 years. In 3 years time the Reds can draft a few other 1B options. If one doesn't develope then sign a veteran who can still drive in 100RBI and hit 30 HR. There out there in this free agent market. I'm sure in 2014 there will be options.
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    Re: Keep Yonder Alonso?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsnake View Post
    I say you do the following:
    Trade Yonder (and a few others) now and make this team better (now) by adding elite or close to it player(s).
    Votto is here for a at least 3 years. In 3 years time the Reds can draft a few other 1B options. If one doesn't develope then sign a veteran who can still drive in 100RBI and hit 30 HR. There out there in this free agent market. I'm sure in 2014 there will be options.
    I agree. We have a good young squad and will be contenders next year. Why not use Yonder to build on this now. Joey is a lock (barring injury) for 3 years, we can't just keep Yonder around to be Joey's back up which is essentially what'd we be doing by hanging on to him.
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    Re: Keep Yonder Alonso?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsnake View Post
    I say you do the following:
    Trade Yonder (and a few others) now and make this team better (now) by adding elite or close to it player(s).
    Votto is here for a at least 3 years. In 3 years time the Reds can draft a few other 1B options. If one doesn't develope then sign a veteran who can still drive in 100RBI and hit 30 HR. There out there in this free agent market. I'm sure in 2014 there will be options.
    According to one poster on here in another thread "Trade idea with the Nats", Alonso is only worth middle infielder Ian Desmond, straight up...

    Not even!

    I agree with you, Trade Alonso now in a package of players for an ACE Starter to stabalize the rotation and roll the dice on the next 3 years with Votto on the team...

    The next 3 years the Reds have the opportunity to win so the Front Office must act now to win...

    Sign Crawford, Sign Lee and even if the payroll goes to 100 Million. Then thats what you spend. The Time is now.

    Not rebuilding anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondo View Post
    According to one poster on here in another thread "Trade idea with the Nats", Alonso is only worth middle infielder Ian Desmond, straight up...

    Not even!

    I agree with you, Trade Alonso now in a package of players for an ACE Starter to stabalize the rotation and roll the dice on the next 3 years with Votto on the team...

    The next 3 years the Reds have the opportunity to win so the Front Office must act now to win...

    Sign Crawford, Sign Lee and even if the payroll goes to 100 Million. Then thats what you spend. The Time is now.

    Not rebuilding anymore.
    well that definitly sounds fun. i guess ur more of a fan of the FLA marlins style of just do whatever it takes for one year to win then suck for 5-7 years afterwards. or you could be minnesota twins style and not take big risks but manage the payroll and talent very well to keep sustained success.

    its kinda like would you take 1 WS then 9 losing seasons, then another WS then 9 losing seasons etc, etc. or would you rather just go to the playoffs 9/10 years but never win the WS?

    not saying i disagree but its just not gonna happen. walt setting this thing up to be a good team every year, not just 1 or 2 then rebuild 8 out of 10 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by webbbj View Post
    well that definitly sounds fun. i guess ur more of a fan of the FLA marlins style of just do whatever it takes for one year to win then suck for 5-7 years afterwards. or you could be minnesota twins style and not take big risks but manage the payroll and talent very well to keep sustained success.

    its kinda like would you take 1 WS then 9 losing seasons, then another WS then 9 losing seasons etc, etc. or would you rather just go to the playoffs 9/10 years but never win the WS?

    not saying i disagree but its just not gonna happen. walt setting this thing up to be a good team every year, not just 1 or 2 then rebuild 8 out of 10 years.
    No, not a fan of the Florida Marlins.

    But with the team always in rebuilding mode... They finally have some pieces and made it to the post season. Why wait to develop more pitching by the time the pitching and a new lead off hitter are Marquee players...

    Time will have passed this team by... Especially if Joey Votto is not resigned...

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    Re: Keep Yonder Alonso?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsnake View Post
    I say you do the following:
    Trade Yonder (and a few others) now and make this team better (now) by adding elite or close to it player(s).
    Votto is here for a at least 3 years. In 3 years time the Reds can draft a few other 1B options. If one doesn't develope then sign a veteran who can still drive in 100RBI and hit 30 HR. There out there in this free agent market. I'm sure in 2014 there will be options.
    I agree 100%

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    Re: Keep Yonder Alonso?

    As long as Votto can produce the organization needs to find as way to hold on to him at all costs as well as find a way to make sure he has the proper tools around him. 1Bman can be replaced I agree, but Joey Votto THE MAN cannot, we are possibly looking at another Tony Perez someone whose PRESENCE cannot be easily replaced.

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    Re: Keep Yonder Alonso?

    I just don't see why Yonder cannot be made into a passable left fielder. The reds ought to be working with him this winter and into Spring on playing that position. he is a good enough hitter to warrant the effort it would take to make him an acceptable outfielder. I ahve heard all the reasons why he can't do it. I just don't accept them as legitimate.

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    Re: Keep Yonder Alonso?

    Alonso in left seems the obvious answer, but one might assume he's a total disaster in the outfield. I'd guess Reds brass, coaches, scouts, and the rest, now much also see Alonso in LF as a major severe defensive liability. Some guys just can't do it for whatever reason. With Alonso, he just doesn't seem built for anything but 1st base or catcher. Perhaps it's body, or instincts, or a combination of both. But, I don't think he's in the Reds LF plans, period. And, for good reason.

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    1B is typically the easiest position to replace/fill. I'm not worried about it.
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    Re: Keep Yonder Alonso?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    1B is typically the easiest position to replace/fill. I'm not worried about it.
    Joey Votto is not only the Reds 1B, he's the #3 hitter, the hammer in the lineup.

    That's not so easy to replace.
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    Re: Keep Yonder Alonso?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    1B is typically the easiest position to replace/fill. I'm not worried about it.
    Since they are so easy to replace when was the last time the Reds had a power hitting 1st basemen who also hit for average?

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    Re: Keep Yonder Alonso?

    I hope the Reds keep Yonder and look to deal Votto while his value is at its peek.
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    Re: Keep Yonder Alonso?

    I just dont think Yonder will ever be an impact player with the Reds, and would be open to trading him for another piece we need now.
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