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    This Reds team is 2 moves from winning a WS

    But they are going to do what they always do. Sit on their thunmbs and let their young talents value go down the drain. I dont get it. Make a move Walt get us to a WS. Sure this team is good but they are not great. Get us at least a LF because Gomes isnt the answer there my friend. Get off your thumbs and do your job.

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    Re: This Reds team is 2 moves from winning a WS

    3 moves.

    1. Good leadoff hitter. Choo
    2. Good hitter behind Votto. Beltran
    3. Ace starter. Lee, Greinke, or other.
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    Re: This Reds team is 2 moves from winning a WS

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    3 moves.

    1. Good leadoff hitter. Choo
    2. Good hitter behind Votto. Beltran
    3. Ace starter. Lee, Greinke, or other.
    You're barking up the wrong Tree with Beltran unless they eat his Salary and take Cordero and his contract. Then it still is a bad move... He is not that great of an Outfielder anymore and moving to Left would just add...

    I think Gomes hits as many Homers and Drives in as many runs as Beltran in 2011

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondo View Post
    You're barking up the wrong Tree with Beltran unless they eat his Salary and take Cordero and his contract. Then it still is a bad move... He is not that great of an Outfielder anymore and moving to Left would just add...

    I think Gomes hits as many Homers and Drives in as many runs as Beltran in 2011
    Gomes is done. He had a 6 week hot streak and he was figured out from that point on.

    Rolen won't hold up all season.

    If we don't get a better bat behind Votto, we may not even win the division next season.
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    Re: This Reds team is 2 moves from winning a WS

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    Gomes is done. He had a 6 week hot streak and he was figured out from that point on.

    Rolen won't hold up all season.

    If we don't get a better bat behind Votto, we may not even win the division next season.


    put Bruce there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    Gomes is done. He had a 6 week hot streak and he was figured out from that point on.

    Rolen won't hold up all season.

    If we don't get a better bat behind Votto, we may not even win the division next season.
    Jay Bruce.

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    Re: This Reds team is 2 moves from winning a WS

    What deal so far would you take?

    Werth - terrible contract. Would probably not fit in the team budget
    Theriot - Reds have better on the team now
    Berkman - Maybe. Yet again, I am not sure an extra $8 million fits in the budget (that is not Walt's decision).
    Mark Reynolds - No thanks

    There are more but I don't want to go into all of them.

    The only one that would have been nice is Marcum, but I am not sure where he would fit in an already full rotation. Cueto and Arroyo are locked in. You would add Marcum to Wood, Leake, Bailey, Chapman, and Volquez for the final 3. He might not even make the rotation.

    Just because something has not been done does not mean nothing is happening.

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    Re: This Reds team is 2 moves from winning a WS

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    Gomes is done. He had a 6 week hot streak and he was figured out from that point on.

    Rolen won't hold up all season.
    If we don't get a better bat behind Votto, we may not even win the division next season.
    This is exactly what I'm afraid of and the very reason I wish the Reds would add another big bat to the lineup.

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    Re: This Reds team is 2 moves from winning a WS

    I'm not sure now what the greater need is. If you were Walt would you be going after Greinke or a left fielder if you could only have one?

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    Re: This Reds team is 2 moves from winning a WS

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    3 moves.

    1. Good leadoff hitter. Choo
    2. Good hitter behind Votto. Beltran
    3. Ace starter. Lee, Greinke, or other.
    want no part of Beltran, we don't need an ACE and can't afford Lee and don't want to give up what it would take to get Greinke, plus not convinced he is better then what we have and have cheaper.

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    Re: This Reds team is 2 moves from winning a WS

    Quote Originally Posted by fewfirstchoice View Post
    But they are going to do what they always do. Sit on their thunmbs and let their young talents value go down the drain. I dont get it. Make a move Walt get us to a WS. Sure this team is good but they are not great. Get us at least a LF because Gomes isnt the answer there my friend. Get off your thumbs and do your job.
    And you know he is not how? You are assuming that he is just sitting there and doing nothing. Could it be there is no one available at this time that is worth anything or worth giving up anything for? What proof do you have that he is not trying?

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    Re: This Reds team is 2 moves from winning a WS

    I go LF/Bat as we have pitching, people just refuse to see the talent we have. We didn't lose to the Phils do to pitching...we lost because we didn't score.

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    Re: This Reds team is 2 moves from winning a WS

    Quote Originally Posted by brm7675 View Post
    I go LF/Bat as we have pitching, people just refuse to see the talent we have. We didn't lose to the Phils do to pitching...we lost because we didn't score.
    The Reds only have one starter who has pitched 200+ Innings in the rotation. This is why they need more depth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondo View Post
    The Reds only have one starter who has pitched 200+ Innings in the rotation. This is why they need more depth.
    Again the pitching is there, the depth is there, there is NO reason to waste player trades on something we don't need. We have NO LF, how can you say it's more important to add depth to a position, when we have 0 depth or talent in LF? Our pitching is just fine...

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    Re: This Reds team is 2 moves from winning a WS

    Quote Originally Posted by brm7675 View Post
    Again the pitching is there, the depth is there, there is NO reason to waste player trades on something we don't need. We have NO LF, how can you say it's more important to add depth to a position, when we have 0 depth or talent in LF? Our pitching is just fine...
    Not trying to be rude here but the Reds have only 1 guy who has pitched 200+ Innings in ONE Season on the Roster...

    Now Cueto pitched 185 Innings last year and has been in the 170+ each of the past 3 seasons but that is it...

    I Love the Reds pitching... Love it!

    Leake and Wood are going to be awesome through a FULL Season... but they are young.

    You would be nieve to go in banking on all the young pitchers giving the team 200+ innings each...

    In my Humble Opinion... The Reds need one more Starter who has consistantly Pitched 200+ Innings...

    So if Greinke is available... they need to trade for him... He is under contract for 2 years and would give the Reds a guaranteed 400 Innings PLUS from their top two Starters...

    I think Wood and especially Leake will be able to consistantly throw 200+ Innings... So lets be clear on that. I just would prefer another "Quality" pitcher in the rotation who can be counted on for 32-34 Starts & 200+ Innings...


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