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    Soapbox time: agent speak

    Scouring the new Cliff Lee article, where it has been reported the Yankees have now offered 7 years and $140 million, I came across the bit that the Rangers have asked Lee's agent what it would take to sign him.

    Seems harmless, right?

    Darek Braundecker, apparently, was somewhat offended. Lee's agent had this to say:

    "We have no interest in participating in the unconventional negotiating style the club has requested," Braunecker told ESPN.com. "For the player to submit an offer to the club ... that's not the way the process works."
    http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/m...ory?id=5902103

    God forbid a club simply wants to know an amount it takes to sign a player. "Unconventional negotiating style?" Since when is it unconventional for one half of the parties involved in a negotiation to want to get to a bottom line number? Good grief. This guy has lost touch with reality--that a service contract is a two-way street.

    I understand it's better for his client if he stays mum on such a question, and instead lets clubs continually go through the bidding process. Make no mistake, I don't blame him for not wanting to answer the question. However, I wish he'd get off the high horse about what constitutes a a conventional negotiating tactic.

    Lest I be clear, from the player's standpoint, I can understand not wanting to put a number on the finality. After all, if they float a number that Texas agrees to, not only does it end the bidding, but then they have to be prepared to accept the offer since they acknowledged it would get the job done. But don't get offended by the fact they simply wanted a number.

    </end soapbox>
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    Re: Soapbox time: agent speak

    after getting my communications degree I may go into law and become a sports agent, I can be a selfish cut throat jerk with the best of them!
    Hey Sparky! Indian Hill English teachers taught me everything I know!

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    Re: Soapbox time: agent speak

    Unfortunately you can't separate the strategy from the tactic in this case. Being on one's high horse is part of the process. Posturing is all part of the game.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Soapbox time: agent speak

    The agent should have said "$35Mil per year for 10 years with a complete no trade clause will get the job done." lol I bet they would never ask that question again. lol

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    Re: Soapbox time: agent speak

    Quote Originally Posted by MattyMo4Life View Post
    The agent should have said "$35Mil per year for 10 years with a no complete no trade clause will get the job done." lol I bet they would never ask that question again. lol
    Bet it would've generated a thread complaining about greedy agents though! :
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    Re: Soapbox time: agent speak

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Unfortunately you can't separate the strategy from the tactic in this case. Being on one's high horse is part of the process. Posturing is all part of the game.
    Yep, the word of this thread is "posture".

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    Re: Soapbox time: agent speak

    Quote Originally Posted by The Voice of IH View Post
    after getting my communications degree I may go into law and become a sports agent, I can be a selfish cut throat jerk with the best of them!
    How would the degree and sports agent gig make things any different?

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    Re: Soapbox time: agent speak

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Unfortunately you can't separate the strategy from the tactic in this case. Being on one's high horse is part of the process. Posturing is all part of the game.
    Sure you can.

    You can posture by saying, "we're not at a point we can put a number on it."

    Same affect. Just a little less snippy. It's not really the message that I despise, it's how the message was delivered.
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    Re: Soapbox time: agent speak

    Darak Braundecker's first dream was to have Cliff Lee traded to the Phillies...his 2nd dream was to cash big Yankee checks

    agents AND player soundbites have been driving me crazy more so than usual this off-season


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