For those interested, the UCONN women's team is currrently trailing by 10 points with about 6 minutes left in the game. They are playing Stanford on ESPN2. Their consecutive win streak is in real trouble.
For those interested, the UCONN women's team is currrently trailing by 10 points with about 6 minutes left in the game. They are playing Stanford on ESPN2. Their consecutive win streak is in real trouble.
Last edited by Red Leader; 12-30-2010 at 11:11 PM.
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UCONN looks to be going down. 42 seconds left, down 8 and Stanford is on the line.
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The streak that started in 2008, the longest in the history of basketball, has come to an end. Stanford has beaten Connecticut 71-59. The win streak is stopped at 90 consecutive games. An incredible record.
Some numbers on the streak:
UCONN's average margin of victory during the streak: 33.4 pts/gm.
Wins vs AP ranked teams: 31
Wins by 10+ points: 88
Days since last loss: 998
In case your wondering, the last time a UCONN women's team lost 2 in a row? March of 1993. Wow.
Last edited by Red Leader; 12-30-2010 at 11:19 PM.
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One of (if not the best) the greatest winning streaks in sports history has ended at 90 games. I think I saw 31 of those games were against top 25 teams. Average margin of victory was 33 points!
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Good riddens! Now we don't have to hear about it on ESPN...
Irrelevant
Yet, you took the time to post about something that you call irrelevant.
I don't like women's ball nearly as much as men's. But I cannot get over the total insecurity guys exhibit when it comes to discussing it. They go out of their way to tell people how meaningless it is, like they need some boost to their ego.
Seriously... if you don't like it, you're in the majority. But what are you not getting in life that you have to waste space with these types of responses?
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
I think ESPN's attempt to cram this whole thing down everyone's throat as if it really compared to UCLA's streak turned a lot of people's opinions from apathy to antipathy. You couldn't avoid the whole thing if you were just trying to mind your own business and watch a bowl game.
I actually enjoy a bit of women's basketball (mostly in the NCAA Tournament). But the way ESPN covered this streak, and Geno's comments throughout, were just ridiculous.
Like the NBA trying to cram the WNBA down people's throats. Few people care.
I might watch ESPN (other than live games of some type) once a week for 3 or 4 minutes, at the most. It just doesn't offer anything anymore.
When women golfers start playing 72-hole tournaments every week while hitting from the men's tees; and, women basketball players start playing with a basketball that's the same size as a "regular" basketball; and, when women tennis players start playing best-of-five-set matches every week; and, when women softball players start playing with baseballs with the same field and diamond dimensions as a baseball field; then, and only then will I begin to think of comparing a streak performed by women to a streak performed by men. Until then, the only thing it's worthy to be compared with is another women's basketball streak.
Amateur and professional women athletes need to take a page from horse-racing, where women athletes compete on an equal basis against men. There, where they aren't given any "handicaps", like they are given in most sports, they have shown to be equal in strength, stamina, ferocity, competitiveness, and talent as the men they compete against. They are as fun to root for (and against) as any man in their profession. Gender doesn't come one's mind when watching them, as it's all about the above things I mentioned. But, when a "handicap" is given, such as the fewer rounds or sets played, or the smaller basketball used, then the whole experience is tainted and a waste of time to watch. Women do themselves a disservice by not demanding that things be changed. They still act like it's 1890 in tennis. That's why nobody wants to watch. Most women tennis players are fat and out of shape. It's a joke. Women's basketball is a joke because they play with a smaller basketball. Women's golf is a joke because they play only 54 holes while playing a shorter course.
Do women run an 80-meter dash? No. That would be ridiculous. But, it's no more ridiculous than playing with a smaller basketball. Why should amazonian women play with a smaller basketball than middle-school boys play with? Get serious about your sport and you'll draw a serious audience who cares.
Last edited by Kingspoint; 12-31-2010 at 01:27 AM.
Wow. Just wow.
You don't think the physiological differences between men and women might be the reason for the differences in their competitions?
Women's tennis players are fat and out of shape? Man, I got nothing for you.
I seriously hope this post was tongue in cheek, but somehow, I doubt it.
When all is said and done more is said than done.
This is just an opinion but last night's game was basically unwatchable without the intrigue of a historic streak possibly coming to an end. If that was the best that woman's basketball has to offer, suggesting it's not very compelling is a major understatement. I'd rather play wii golf than watch that brand of basketball. As for taking the effort to buy a ticket and actually physically attending a a woman's basketball game, after watching last night's "showcase", it aint gonna happen.
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I agree that ESPN has been overplaying it, but they tend to overplay Connecticut in general because of the proximity to headquarters. But I think the reaction that has been going on is typical of anytime women's basketball is mentioned, and not just during this streak. And I really don't get it. I get why some people don't care, but why do we need to know that? It doesn't add anything to the discussion nor does it attempt to.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
I wouldn't call it irrelevant, but it does show something I've always believed when it comes to womens college basketball, the lack of overall parity.
I can't speak for the Golden Era at UCLA because I was not alive during that time, but was the mens sport as watered down as what womens college basketball is today?
It's basically UConn, occasionally Tennessee, and thats about it.
Actually, I think it's the parity that made the streak possible. Parity for everyone else at least. Essentially Women's basketball used to be about a 4-5team race. There was UConn, Tennessee, Stanford, and maybe 2 or 3 other teams who could really play. They got all the top players, they could give each other a good game, but really they were going to beat everyone else by 40-50 points.
As the game and the talent pool expanded, more and more top players went to different schools. It started to thin out the top teams. Except for UConn.
So now UConn is collecting the same number of top players as before, (if not more because they're the biggest super power) and the rest of the teams are starting to see the talent level flatten out. Now pretty much everyone from about 2-20 can give each other a game, but all were going to get creamed by UConn.
Well, that makes me feel better about Xavier getting pasted by Stanford earlier in the week. Congrats to UCONN on an amazing accomplishment.
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