Those that complain about Lewis: you won't find better. At least not to come work for this organization.
Given what he has to work with, and given that Mike Brown still has all the ultimate say, Lewis did as good a job in Cincinnati as one could expect. Cincinnati won't lure any top candidates for the job because of the reputation of ownership and lack of control over personnel.
So given that, letting Lewis walk would not be wise IMHO.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
Unfortunately, I think this will be it for the rest of the Brown era, however long it lasts.
I think Lewis was about the last chance of the Mike Brown-era Bengals to retain a consistent level of winning and respect (not win one year, even next year, lose next year, win next year). Once Lewis moves on - and I am quite certain he will - expect the miserable 1990s to be repeated.
This is a smart move by Lewis. He has a chance to make himself not look the bad guy, and for everyone's opinion of Brown to stay the same (basically, sort of allowing Mike Brown to save face). I expect Lewis to be gone, Zimmerman to be gone a couple of years after that and so on and so on and so on and so on. About the only recognizable face in the franchise for the next couple of years could be Palmer, the shell of his former self.
Mike Brown is viewed by everyone in the NFL as a complete joke. Marvin certainly isn't hurting himself by saying what everyone already knows.
You never know. Mike changed a tiny bit when he hired Marvin, maybe he'll make some more changes to keep him around. The Bengals certainly could do much worse, and probably will if Lewis goes.
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
Good luck Marvin. He stayed on this ship as long as he could. Now jump the hell out before the iceberg hits.
Reality is, though, that the Bengals (or any team) would be silly to bring in a coach from off the streets with the possibility existing that a labor dispute would wipe out all OTAs for 2011. If there's a lockout, an "outside hire" might not even meet with his team until a week or two before the season begins. Their best move, likely, is to retain Lewis or promote Zimmer.
25 Years and Counting...
But yeah, screw him.
Last edited by paintmered; 01-02-2011 at 10:49 PM.
What if this wasn't a rhetorical question?
All models are wrong. Some of them are useful.
If he had made the comments after Mikey tried to sign him to an extension, there would have likely been more fan support which may have aided Marvin and Mike both getting what they wanted.
I'd be perfectly happy with Brian Billick, but as Boss said in the other thread, he is going to want more control than SoP is willing to give.
Marvin Lewis has 0 playoff wins in 8 seasons here. With the roster Lewis had, the Bengals should have not only made the playoffs, but win a game in the playoffs. Instead, we go 4-12.
Marvin Lewis needs to be held responsible for this disaster of a season. Brown, despite all his faults, gave Lewis a team that could be successful. Marvin failed miserably.
I think I am ready for a change.
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