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    Hamilton still in hospital with pneumonia, but improving

    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...g-improvement/

    http://health.nytimes.com/health/gui...k-factors.html
    "Drug and Alcohol Abuse. Alcohol or drug abuse is strongly associated with pneumonia. These substances act as sedatives and can diminish the reflexes that trigger coughing and sneezing. Alcohol also interferes with the actions of macrophages, the white blood cells that destroy bacteria and other microbes. Intravenous drug abusers are at risk for pneumonia from infections that start at the injection site and spread through the bloodstream to the lungs"

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    Re: Hamilton still in hospital with pneumonia, but improving

    Quote Originally Posted by RBA View Post
    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...g-improvement/

    http://health.nytimes.com/health/gui...k-factors.html
    "Drug and Alcohol Abuse. Alcohol or drug abuse is strongly associated with pneumonia. These substances act as sedatives and can diminish the reflexes that trigger coughing and sneezing. Alcohol also interferes with the actions of macrophages, the white blood cells that destroy bacteria and other microbes. Intravenous drug abusers are at risk for pneumonia from infections that start at the injection site and spread through the bloodstream to the lungs"
    Young healthy people get pneumonia all the time. Usually its what is these days called atypical pneumonia but was in the old days was called walking pneumonia. This is usually treated with oral antibiotics at home but sometimes can be more severe. You can even die from this. Legionare's disease is an example fo an atypical pneumonia than can be severe.

    You can also get more typical pneumonia such as streptococcal. This is more common in older sicker folks but does at times happen to young healthy folks. All these patients get hospitalized.

    To suggest Josh is using drugs or alcohol based on him being admitted to a hospital for treatment of pneumonia is pure speculation.
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    Yes, it's pure speculation. But I have bad experience with addicts. Don't trust them.

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    Re: Hamilton still in hospital with pneumonia, but improving

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    Yes, it's pure speculation. But I have bad experience with addicts. Don't trust them.
    You really think Hamilton has fallen back into addiction?
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    Re: Hamilton still in hospital with pneumonia, but improving

    Quote Originally Posted by RBA View Post
    Yes, it's pure speculation. But I have bad experience with addicts. Don't trust them.
    I would think that anyone who has ever been around an addict or addicts would have had bad experiences with them. Hamilton's entire family has had a bad experience with him, but people can change.

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    Re: Hamilton still in hospital with pneumonia, but improving

    To me this says more about Hamilton's overall health than it does about his fight with addiction. Doing the amount of drugs he did in the timespan he did then in does a whole of damage to the body. That's what scared me the most about him, his likelihood of getting hurt or sick on a regular basis, more than him relapsing.
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    Re: Hamilton still in hospital with pneumonia, but improving

    Cue the obligatory "Would you still trade Hamilton for Volquez?" discussion.

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    I have no problem with people "wondering if this and/or that..." when it comes to Josh Hamilton. And I do not blame people for asking. Blame Josh Hamilton for people asking. Josh made terrible decisions in his life and will forever carry that stigma. Not fair? Probably not. Especially if he will foever be clean. But he created this... not the people who ask.
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    Re: Hamilton still in hospital with pneumonia, but improving

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNext44 View Post
    To me this says more about Hamilton's overall health than it does about his fight with addiction. Doing the amount of drugs he did in the timespan he did then in does a whole of damage to the body. That's what scared me the most about him, his likelihood of getting hurt or sick on a regular basis, more than him relapsing.
    This is what I was thinking. His past abuses may make him more likely to acquite pneumonia and other infectious diseases.
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    I've never done a drug in my life, nor smoked or drank for that matter, and I got pneumonia. Knocked me flat on my back for six weeks, and I didn't fully recover until months later. No matter the reason for Josh coming down with it, it's not to be taken lightly. Here's hoping for a speedy recovery.

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    Re: Hamilton still in hospital with pneumonia, but improving

    Surprised that some are sparking the debate here. It's not a relapse, I think that's as irresponsible to assume as when some here included myself doubted Votto missing games this past season for any reason other than an ear ache or sinus infection or whatever he had.

    I think the media is partly to blame. If Drew Stubbs is hospitalized with Pneumonia, it's not a sportscenter lead story is it? It's probably not a story at all. But the media reports on Hamilton's bout with the illness and hospitalization so that we as fans can speculate 'is it a relapse' or 'is it due to his history'. Kind of a sad reality really.
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    Re: Hamilton still in hospital with pneumonia, but improving

    I had a friend die of pneumonia two years ago. Perfectly healthy guy- not a smoker, exercised regularly, was a strong runner. Sometimes young people who seem otherwise very healthy get pneumonia.
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    Re: Hamilton still in hospital with pneumonia, but improving

    Quote Originally Posted by SunDeck View Post
    I had a friend die of pneumonia two years ago. Perfectly healthy guy- not a smoker, exercised regularly, was a strong runner. Sometimes young people who seem otherwise very healthy get pneumonia.
    I got pneumonia multiple times as a kid. Its not really fair for the misleading segments when it could be explained rather easily without dragging it into "did he relapse?" But also like others have said Hamilton's previous choices have left this as an almost certainty everytime anything happens.
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    Re: Hamilton still in hospital with pneumonia, but improving

    Beat writer for the Cavs Brian Windhorst got pneumonia a few years back and almost died. He was only 26 or 27 at the time.
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    Re: Hamilton still in hospital with pneumonia, but improving

    I go along with the theory that Hamilton's previous drug addiction has possibly weakened his resisitance to sicknesses and injuries more than an indication of a relapse. But then, he could have just plain old caught the bug. Who knows?

    As far as recovering addicts go, my philosophy has always been "trust, but verify".

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