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    10 Most Lopsided Trades in the Reds' Favor

    Just up on the Cincinnati Enquirer page (John Fay)

    He chooses these 10 deals:


    Brandon Phillips

    Bronson Arroyo

    Danny Jackson

    Tom Seaver

    The Nov-'71 trade with Houston (Morgan and all)

    Bob Purkey

    Bucky Walters

    Eppa Rixey

    Edd Roush

    Heinie Groh



    I mentioned in the Comments section that the Gus Bell deal has to be part of the list somewhere. The Danny Jackson deal was a good one but not great. He had one stupendous season ('88) but otherwise just OK. I'd drop that trade from the list. Bell was with the Reds for 9 seasons and was SOLID.

    http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/201...vor/#more-9977

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    Re: 10 Most Lopsided Trades in the Reds' Favor

    Bob.... how could you possibly leave out the deal where we stole Milt Pappas for that washed up "old for 30" Robinson dude.

    We really showed them.
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    Re: 10 Most Lopsided Trades in the Reds' Favor

    Got to have George Foster for Frank Duffy on that list.

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    Re: 10 Most Lopsided Trades in the Reds' Favor

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    Got to have George Foster for Frank Duffy on that list.
    That may be #2 on the list, after the Morgan et al theft.

    How about Granger and Tolan for Pinson? Granger was turned into Tom Hall, and Tolan for Clay Kirby for a little more value.

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    Re: 10 Most Lopsided Trades in the Reds' Favor

    Lombardi:
    March 14, 1932: Traded by the Brooklyn Dodgers with Wally Gilbert and Babe Herman to the Cincinnati Reds for Tony Cuccinello, Joe Stripp and Clyde Sukeforth.

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    Re: 10 Most Lopsided Trades in the Reds' Favor

    Not high profile, but getting Fred Norman for Gene Locklear stabilized the Reds rotation and provided solid innings for a lot of years.
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    Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

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    Re: 10 Most Lopsided Trades in the Reds' Favor

    Josh Hamilton, 2010's AL MVP, for only $50k?

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    Re: 10 Most Lopsided Trades in the Reds' Favor

    Yeah, the Foster Duffy deal and the Morgan mega deal might be there among the all-time deals in MLB history too.

    Giving up a little needed MI (and I believe there was another warm body) for a young corner OF who turned out to have monstrous power was amazing. It really put the finishing touches on the BRM allowing Rose to move to third base. Don't know whether it was dumb luck or sheer brilliance, but knowing Bob Howsam, I'd lean heavily toward the latter.

    3B Pete Rose
    RF Ken Griffey
    2B Joe Morgan
    1B Tony Perez
    CA Johnny Bench
    RF George Foster
    SS Davey Concepcion
    CF Cesar Geronimo

    That may have been as perfectly balanced a lineup as there has been in my lifetime - especially before free agancy really took off.

    Speed at the top, power throughout and decent solid OBP as well. Not to mention that all four of their core defenders up the middle Bench, Morgan, Concepcion and Geronimo won four gold gloves 1974-77.

    I get kind of disgusted sometimes by the gulf in baseball between the haves and havenots. I think about how fortunate I was though to have been able to enjoy the 1975 & 76 season and it takes some of the sting away.

    When you go back an look at the difference between the statistics then and now its a little mind-blowing - even the oft-forgotten pitching - Staff ERAs sub 3.50 both years, six starters winning 10 games or better both seasons, shutdown relievers from top to bottom - Mercy!
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    Re: 10 Most Lopsided Trades in the Reds' Favor

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    That may be #2 on the list, after the Morgan et al theft.

    How about Granger and Tolan for Pinson? Granger was turned into Tom Hall, and Tolan for Clay Kirby for a little more value.
    Granger and Tolan were great additions for a couple of seasons, 1969-70, just on their own. Take that duo away from the Reds and the 1970 NO pennant would have been more difficult to nail down. Tolan hit .316 with 16 HRs and a league leading 57 stolen bases, while Granger was the NL Fireman of the Year. Howsam then flipped them for Hall and Kirby.
    Howsam's trades for Clay Carroll and for Alex Johnson were also good pickups.
    Best ever trade was the acquisition of Morgan, Billingham, Geronimo, et al. Second best ever trade was acquring Foster.
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    Re: 10 Most Lopsided Trades in the Reds' Favor

    I've always enjoyed that Wayne krenchicki turned into Norm Charlton.

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    Re: 10 Most Lopsided Trades in the Reds' Favor

    Didn't the Reds get Bronson Arroyo in return for Willy Mo Pena?

    Reds got Sean Casey and gave up Mark Portugal.
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    Re: 10 Most Lopsided Trades in the Reds' Favor

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeS21 View Post
    Didn't the Reds get Bronson Arroyo in return for Willy Mo Pena?

    Reds got Sean Casey and gave up Mark Portugal.
    We traded our ace the day before Opening Day (Dave Burba) for Sean Casey. That trade was good for the Reds, but not a top ten steal IMO.

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    Re: 10 Most Lopsided Trades in the Reds' Favor

    Fay has now expanded the list of trades to 15. The names added are:


    John Franco

    George Foster

    Joey Jay

    Gus Bell

    Ernie Lombardi


    Are there still some glaring omissions?

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    Re: 10 Most Lopsided Trades in the Reds' Favor

    December 9th, 1977 - The A's and Reds announce a deal that will send P Vida Blue to Cincinnati for OF Dave Revering and $1.75 million cash. Adding a Cy Young award winning pitcher to the two-time World Champion Reds lineup proves to be just too much. Commissioner Bowie Kuhn voids the deal less than 2 months later... I was looking forward to that 3rd championship.

    Oh yeah, Blue went on to pitch 258 innings of 1.17 WHIP ball for the Giants and the Reds finished 2.5 games behind the Dodgers in 1978.
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    Re: 10 Most Lopsided Trades in the Reds' Favor

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Borkowski View Post
    Are there still some glaring omissions?
    Derringer:

    Traded by the St. Louis Cardinals with Sparky Adams and Allyn Stout to the Cincinnati Reds for Leo Durocher, Dutch Henry and Jack Ogden.


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