He really rates Cody Puckett, as well as Lutzkar & Duran to a lesser extent, well above what Redszone ranked them at.
Since Billy Hamilton is rated #6 on the list, I have a question. I have seen conflicting scouting reports and I really don't know who to believe. And I don't think there is consensus even within the Reds' organization.
Is Billy Hamilton going to be a future 2B or a future SS? The answer to that question needs to be answered soon, considering the middle infield situation with the big league club. If Hamilton is the future SS, then the Reds can go the temporary route with the Caberas, Renterias, and Janish's, until Hamilton is ready to go. But if Hamilton is a future 2B, then a more permanent solution to SS needs to be found, and the Reds need to stall BP's departure until Hamilton is ready.
Some say he has the arm and range to stay at short. Others claim his arm is too weak, and he'd be as good or better than BP at second.
Which scout do we believe?
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The question needs to be answered at some point, but I'm not sure it has to be this season.Is Billy Hamilton going to be a future 2B or a future SS? The answer to that question needs to be answered soon, considering the middle infield situation with the big league club. If Hamilton is the future SS, then the Reds can go the temporary route with the Caberas, Renterias, and Janish's, until Hamilton is ready to go. But if Hamilton is a future 2B, then a more permanent solution to SS needs to be found, and the Reds need to stall BP's departure until Hamilton is ready.
Don't forget about Cozart at SS in the future. If Cozart has a good season in AAA he may be in line for the SS position. If he tears it up, and Janish/Renteiria struggle or have injuries, we might even see Cozart up this year.
Seems like the Reds have an abundance of MI prospects. Maybe none of them have the ceiling of Hamilton, but there are many solid looking options.
A decision on Hamilton doesn't need to be made anytime soon. Kris Negron and Zack Cozart will provide plenty of time to figure out where to play him long term. Personally, I would leave him at shortstop until he is ready for the Majors. At that point, you determine what makes more sense based on both him and who is playing at SS/2B for the Reds and how they are performing.
How does Hamilton project as a SS? He probably has decent range, but does he have a strong enough arm?
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He has outstanding range. His arm isn't a plus there, but he isn't David Eckstein either. IMO, its plenty good enough to play there.Originally Posted by MikeS21
I think which side of 2B Hamilton ends up on may depend largely on who is DP partner is when he hits the big club. Based on the current farm system, if it's Cozart, Negron, Gregorius, Arias, Valor, etc. there's a good chance he switches to SS (although I think there's a decent chance Arias grows into a 3B). If its Puckett, HRod, Torreyes, Greene, etc.then he's probably a SS. Personally, I'm hoping Torreyes can keep ip his magic. Hamilton at SS and leading off with Torreyes at 2B and batting 2nd could really be dynamic and allow the Reds to load the other spots with Big bats.
If both youngsters could maintain their development, a future Reds lineup that included Torreyes @ 2B, Hamilton @ SS, Stubbs in CF and Mesoraco/Grandal behind the plate, has the potential to not only be solid defensively up the middle, but be pretty potent offensively at four spots where bats are often lighter. Yeah, it's way early, but find a way to keep Joey with Bruce add Yorman in LF and a yet-to-be-named 3B and you have the makings of a solid lineup.
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I used to think the Reds should try to move Alonso to LA for Dee Gordon. Could you imagine a future Hamilton/Gordon middle infield, with Stubbs in center?
I want nothing to do with Dee Gorgon. His defense is iffy (he has the tools, but he just isn't very good right now) and he can't hit. I would take Zack Cozart every day of the week over Dee Gordon and not think twice about it.
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Whatever. It's still a ton of range, and I'll bet you money Baseball America ranks him higher than Alonso or Cozart.
What caught my eye was that he thought that Bailey was the Reds third best player under 26, ahead of Cueto, Leake and Wood, and that Alonso was ahead of Hamilton and Y. Rodriguez. Not sure too many other people share those opinions.
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I agree with Bailey 3rd. If Chapman stays in the pen, Bailey might be 2nd. I think Leake is too high. Bruce is the clear number 1.
Grandal is the guy that surprises me the most. He's highly rated on both lists and getting love for his offense and defense. The reports that I read made him sound like Javy so I've not rated him as highly as others. I hope the optimism about Grandal is correct. Its been on multiple lists, but I chalked it up to the typical love for the latest 1st rounder that seems so rampant on these lists. I'd love to see him start at a fairly high level (A+ or AA) and him put up a good season and prove these lists correct.
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To be honest, I wouldn't even put Bailey in the top 10.
Sure he has a ton of raw talent, but in my opinion, he's not much closer to reaching his potential than Hamilton or Mesoraco, both of whom I think have more talent than he does. In fact, since Bailey's spent three seasons already in the majors and hasn't put it together, I would say he's actually farther away than those two.
And going forward, I wouldn't be surprised to see Bailey log more innings in the pen than Chapman in their careers.
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