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    SI: Jay Bruce leads list of breakout players to watch in 2011

    From Sports Illustrated:

    He turns 24 in early April and will once again team with NL MVP Joey Votto to form a potent middle-of-the-order tandem and the core of what should once again be one of the best offenses in the National League.
    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1BhndMsww

    I would love to see Redszoners projections for Jay Bruce in 2011. I've already gone on record as saying I think Bruce is a darkhorse candidate to win the NL MVP this season.

    My projections:

    .295/.380/.540 with 35 homers, 30+ doubles, and Gold Glove caliber defense again.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: SI: Jay Bruce leads list of breakout players to watch in 2011

    I think Jay will hit 40 homers and 40 doubles at least, he was only lacking confidence IMO

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    Re: SI: Jay Bruce leads list of breakout players to watch in 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    My projections:

    .295/.380/.540 with 35 homers, 30+ doubles, and Gold Glove caliber defense again.
    I like those, although I'd take BA and OBP down 10-15 points each.

    .280/.365/.540 with 35 dingers and GG defense. I'll take it!
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    Re: SI: Jay Bruce leads list of breakout players to watch in 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by icehole3 View Post
    I think Jay will hit 40 homers and 40 doubles at least, he was only lacking confidence IMO
    He certainly has the ability. If he does that while Votto also has another MVP caliber season, look out!

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    Re: SI: Jay Bruce leads list of breakout players to watch in 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by icehole3 View Post
    I think Jay will hit 40 homers and 40 doubles at least, he was only lacking confidence IMO
    Just confidence?

    FWIW 40 HR's and 40 2b's has only been accomplished 34 times in the history of the game.

    No Red has ever had a 40/40 season, also considering that the GAB is not a big doubles park I'll be happy with 25 from Bruce.

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    Re: SI: Jay Bruce leads list of breakout players to watch in 2011

    I think his BB rate will improve slightly, and he'll see a big uptick in SLG.

    .280/.360/.525 w/ 30 HR
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    Re: SI: Jay Bruce leads list of breakout players to watch in 2011

    Makes me think of the Cyclone Rule. Jay nearly eclipsed that BB% of 10 last year, I bet he kills it this year.

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    Re: SI: Jay Bruce leads list of breakout players to watch in 2011

    I just hope his consistency is improved this year.....no extended slumps will = 30/100.

    His defense and demeanor alone are worth the contract.....he's the new mayor imho.
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    Re: SI: Jay Bruce leads list of breakout players to watch in 2011

    With potential to be "the governor"

    Quote Originally Posted by VR View Post
    I just hope his consistency is improved this year.....no extended slumps will = 30/100.

    His defense and demeanor alone are worth the contract.....he's the new mayor imho.

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    Re: SI: Jay Bruce leads list of breakout players to watch in 2011

    I dunno...he's pretty unlucky.
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    Re: SI: Jay Bruce leads list of breakout players to watch in 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post

    No Red has ever had a 40/40 season
    Frank Robinson came awfully close in 1962, with 51 doubles and 39 HRs.
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    Re: SI: Jay Bruce leads list of breakout players to watch in 2011

    .287/.373/.527 - 33 HR's, 28 doubles, 90+ RBI
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    Re: SI: Jay Bruce leads list of breakout players to watch in 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    .287/.373/.527 - 33 HR's, 28 doubles, 90+ RBI
    If he pulls off that line off, he'll get more than 90 RBI. Think 110 RBI at least.

    My prediction seems to be a bit pessimistic: 270/350/535. 30 homers or so. Solid season, but not MVP-like. Combine that with a slight Rolen decline (800-ish OPS) and a slight Votto decline (950-ish OPS) and, IMO, the middle of the order will struggle slightly. However, I fully expect the leadoff, number two hitters, and Gomes to do MUCH better (a 350-ish obp, 800 OPS, and 875 OPS respectively), improving where the middle of the order will not.

    The keys to the season, IMO, are Stubbs and the catchers. If they can OPS around 800 between them (as they did last season), the offense will be okay. If they can't, the offense goes from excellent to merely average.
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    Re: SI: Jay Bruce leads list of breakout players to watch in 2011

    will dusty be hitting him 2, 4, and 5 or is he going to be hitting 6th and 7th the majority of the time? If he's hitting 6th and 7th it will just be a gradual increase from last year's numbers at best or possibly a short decline. He needs to be hitting 2nd, 4th (best spot for him) or 5th. The days of Hanigan and Janish protecting him need to end.
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    Re: SI: Jay Bruce leads list of breakout players to watch in 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosts of 1990 View Post
    will dusty be hitting him 2, 4, and 5 or is he going to be hitting 6th and 7th the majority of the time? If he's hitting 6th and 7th it will just be a gradual increase from last year's numbers at best or possibly a short decline. He needs to be hitting 2nd, 4th (best spot for him) or 5th. The days of Hanigan and Janish protecting him need to end.
    The line-up should be Votto/Bruce 3/4. Why give the pitcher a break by separating them? The biggest issue is finding somebody to hit 5th. There really isn't a good candidate. If they could keep Rolen's shoulder relatively pain free by giving him lots of rest, he may be capable for 110 games spread out over the season. That would suggest a guy like Francisco on the other days with his playing time strategically chosen against RHP that he can handle. Its why I really hate the Cairo signing. Rolen and Francisco could combine to be that third member of the middle of the order if the PT was doled out wisely, but at this point, I don't see Francisco making the team.
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