Ben is a really really good facilitator, who can improvise on the fly within the system but to compare Ben to Peyton is not fair.
But think about how scary good Aaron Rodgers could be as his career progresses. He seems to have the accuracy of Brees, but the mobility of a Roethlisberger or McNabb. If he can keep away from concussions, he could be the next elite level QB in the Manning/Brady line.
And I mean no harm to Eric, but had the numbers been correct, I would not have made an appearance in here.
Seems that Peyton has been asked to do way more than Ben has.
Also, these numbers brought up by ETR in the Colts thread mean more to me than the ones he posted in this thread.
Really the only significant happening I took from last night:
If I counter you with W-L stats, individual stats,anything etc...you are going to come back with the fact that Peyton has been playing with the proverbial one arm tied behind his back due to being on the Colts. Without looking though, I'd wager the Colts have a high regular season W-L % than Pitt during each of these QB's respective reigns. I can't win.
Ben is 10-3 in the playoffs. Peyton is well...I don't know, but nowhere close to that. I'm not saying the QB is totally responsible for a teams W-L, but he's pretty darn important. And having watched about all of Ben's playoff games, there is no doubt in my mind he is a difference maker.
But it is all a matter of opinion as I said, and I hold nothing against your feeling that Peyton has been the better playoff QB.
But let me ask you this....if you switch their teams, do you still think Ben would be your pick?
I think Ben would be exposed on a team that does not feature a strong defense and running game. But Peyton would still be an elite QB on the Steelers (as horrible as that thought is).
I gleaned a lot of this from here, and it's pretty spot in...
2011 Super Bowl: Ben Roethlisberger With Another Super Bowl Clunker
Roethlisberger has a history of performing poorly in Super Bowls. The Steelers won Super Bowl XL vs the Seattle largely in spite of Roethlisberger who was anemic, completing nine of 21 passes for 123 yards, 2 INTs, and a 22.6 QB rating. Now Ben did improve vs the Cardinals in Super Bowl XLIII, who were 9-7 in the regular season and got hot in the post-season, completing 21 of 30 passes for 256 yards, a TD, an INT, and a QB Rating of 93.2.
And in this year's SB, Ben was 25-40 for 263 yds, 2 TS, 2 INTs, and a QB Rating of 77.4.
In three Super Bowls, Roethlisberger has thrown three touchdowns and five interceptions. If the Steelers won, people would compare him to Brady, having three rings and all, but know this: in four Super Bowls, Brady has completed 100 of 155 passes for 1,001 yards and seven touchdowns against just one interception.
Roethlisberger is not a big-game quarterback, his defense and running games have bailed him out in the playoffs time and time again - which is a testament to how good the Steelers running game and defense has been in a league that is now dominated by passing.
"panic" only comes from having real expectations