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    Rotoauthority- Reds' #5 Starter Battle

    http://www.rotoauthority.com/2011/01...5-starter.html

    In what might be the most evenly matched competition in this series, I'll take a look at the last spot in the Reds' rotation. I can probably expand the list of candidates by two or three but it's unnecessary at this point. Realistically, it's a two-man race between two of the better young pitchers in the game.
    Martinez does a quick breakdown of the Reds' #5 starter battle, which he says is effectively between Leake and Wood.
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    Re: Rotoauthority- Reds' #5 Starter Battle

    I would think the battle is more between Bailey and Leake, with Wood being penciled in already.
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    Re: Rotoauthority- Reds' #5 Starter Battle

    Martinez does a quick breakdown of the Reds' #5 starter battle, which he says is effectively between Leake and Wood.
    That's bull. Wood's our #3, easy. And I ain't got any stats to back it up at the moment either. I watched him pitch last year. As I did everyone else. And there is no way in heck Travis Wood is not on the opening day pitching staff.

    I'll stake my RZ reputation on it. (Which isn't much, lol.)

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    Re: Rotoauthority- Reds' #5 Starter Battle

    I would think the battle is more between Bailey and Leake, with Wood being penciled in already.
    Absolutely. I would've had Volqy in there too, but with his new contract, he seems to have the 4-spot locked up.

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    Re: Rotoauthority- Reds' #5 Starter Battle

    Thanks for posting.

    For me it's Wood, and it's not really even close. I'm afraid that neither pitcher is quite as good as they performed last year, but I still trust Wood quite a bit, and I have little to no faith in Leake at this point. I don't think it's as simple as "he ran out of steam." I think he stopped getting quite so BABIP lucky, and basically stopped fooling hitters. He was getting hit very hard in May and June, if I remember correctly. He doesn't strike out nearly enough batters, and his K/BB rate scares me quite a bit. I think it would be crazy to start him at the big level this year and to have Wood (who is much more seasoned) in AAA.

    I'm being somewhat cautious with my expectations with Wood, but I still do think he can be a solid #2 in the future. The guy has great control, and seems to just (cliche warning) "know how to pitch". He doesn't miss over the middle of the plate much, strikes out a decent amount of hitters, and generally does not get contact on the fat part of the bat. He benefits from a strong defense (as all Reds pitchers do), but his peripherals make me feel a lot better about his immediate future than Leake's.

    I seriously hope the Reds don't plan on keeping Leake's "Never pitched in the minors" mantra alive just for the sake of keeping it alive, and I don't think they will.

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    Re: Rotoauthority- Reds' #5 Starter Battle

    I think Leake will be an effective ML starter for a long time.
    He's obviously not a Cy Young candidate (not saying anyone is claiming that), but he's got talent. I don't think Walt would've put him directly in the majors last year without seeing the kid's talent.. Walt isn't the type to just throw random players against the wall and see what sticks.

    I know people are down on Leake, but I would not be disappointed to see him in the rotation next year.

    I still wonder if there's going to be a trade in spring training.
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    Re: Rotoauthority- Reds' #5 Starter Battle

    Assuming health, Bailey is a lock for the rotation. Out of options, not a good relief option, he'll be in the rotation.

    It is indeed a battle between Leake and Wood.

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    Re: Rotoauthority- Reds' #5 Starter Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfan320 View Post
    Absolutely. I would've had Volqy in there too, but with his new contract, he seems to have the 4-spot locked up.
    Wood and Bailey and Leake have a new contract too.

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    Re: Rotoauthority- Reds' #5 Starter Battle

    If I'm not mistaken, in this thread EV, Wood, and Homer have all been proclaimed locks, in one way or another. Sorry Mr. Leake, guess you are the odd man out.

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    Re: Rotoauthority- Reds' #5 Starter Battle

    1-3, Cueto, Arroyo, Volquez.

    4 Bailey or Wood

    5 Bailey/Wood or Leake

    The Reds will give Bailey 1st shot at the #4 spot in the rotation, but this is likely his last year to fail. Chapman to the pen all year followed by a rotation audition next year.
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    Re: Rotoauthority- Reds' #5 Starter Battle

    Lot of people going to be disappointed when Leake makes the rotation. Just don't see the Reds moving him back to AAA or bullpen.

    Unless he has a bad spring, I'm confident Leake will be a regular starter.

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    Re: Rotoauthority- Reds' #5 Starter Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    I would think the battle is more between Bailey and Leake, with Wood being penciled in already.
    i agree with this assessment.

    i suspect Leake will go to AAA. this is fine. depth is good & injuries do happen. an added plus: right now Leake has 1.0 years of service time. if he spends part of 2011 in AAA the Reds will control him through 2016 instead of just through 2015.
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    Re: Rotoauthority- Reds' #5 Starter Battle

    Who needs more starts in AAA, Leake or Wood?

    I'd say Leake.

    Either way, I can't wait to see what happens.
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    Re: Rotoauthority- Reds' #5 Starter Battle

    Kc...in place of who? I doubt they are cutting bait on bailey (nor should they) and doubt bailey is bullpen bound. As between wood and leake, for me, it's gotta be wood. Leake to AAA for some seasoning and to build on last year until the inevitable injury happens to one of the cincy starting rotation seems likely to me.

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    Re: Rotoauthority- Reds' #5 Starter Battle

    Reds pitchers who have thrown at least 185 innings in a full season: Arroyo, Cueto, Volquez, Bailey, Wood and Maloney.Leake isn't there and that is one of the reasons he finds himself in AAA this year. That and he just isn't as good of an option as the first five guys on that list.


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