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    Rare feat: More HR's than K's in a season

    I've been receiving feeds on Facebook from Baseball-reference.com's blog with some interesting posts.

    Today's caught my eye and then I saw some Reds on this list too. The topic was players who hit more home runs in a season than they struck out (minimum 20 HR's). Big Klu was on the list four times with Frank McCormick and Ernie Lombardi just making the list with their 1944 and 1939 respectively (20 dingers).

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    Re: Rare feat: More HR's than K's in a season

    That is one impressive list and makes me appreciate Big Klu even more than I already did. There were some pretty incredible RBI totals that went along with many of those names also. Shows the added value of the slugger who regularly puts the ball in play (and the value of having guys on base ahead of them!).
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    Re: Rare feat: More HR's than K's in a season

    How about almost more Hr's than strikeouts in a career.

    Dimaggio had 361 career HR's and 369 career strikeouts.



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    Re: Rare feat: More HR's than K's in a season

    Quote Originally Posted by George Anderson View Post
    How about almost more Hr's than strikeouts in a career.

    Dimaggio had 361 career HR's and 369 career strikeouts.



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    Re: Rare feat: More HR's than K's in a season

    Quote Originally Posted by George Anderson View Post
    How about almost more Hr's than strikeouts in a career.

    Dimaggio had 361 career HR's and 369 career strikeouts.



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    That's my second all-time favorite baseball stat. Just amazing a player could do that for an entire career, no matter who the player.

    /favorite stat is 3016, which is the number of hits Hank Aaron has if you take away all of his home runs
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    Re: Rare feat: More HR's than K's in a season

    My god, Stan Musial went nuts in 1948:


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    Re: Rare feat: More HR's than K's in a season

    Be curious how the rate of these occurances changed once "modern" relief pitching took hold. I suspect they dropped quite a bit. Nothing will slow down HR and increse Ks more then the oppossing manager brining in a guy who's specific job is to get guys like you out.

    GL

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    Re: Rare feat: More HR's than K's in a season

    Rough list, starting point is 1920 (due to incomplete K records prior)

    Code:
    SEASON
    1920-2010
    HOMERUNS >= 10
    STRIKEOUTS <= 10
    
    AT BATS                       YEAR     AB       HR       SO     
    1    Tommy Holmes             1945      636       28        9   
    2    Frankie Frisch           1927      617       10       10   
    3    Lou Boudreau             1948      560       18        9   
    4    Billy Southworth         1926      507       16       10   
    5    Joe Sewell               1932      503       11        3   
    6    Mickey Cochrane          1927      432       12        7   
    7    Ernie Lombardi           1935      332       12        6   
    8    Earl Smith               1921      229       10        8   
    9    Ted Williams             1953       91       13       10 
    
    
    SEASON
    1920-2010
    HOMERUNS >= 15
    STRIKEOUTS <= 15
    
    AT BATS                       YEAR     AB       HR       SO     
    1    Red Schoendienst         1957      648       15       15   
    2    Charlie Gehringer        1936      641       15       13   
    3    Tommy Holmes             1945      636       28        9   
    4    Frank McCormick          1941      603       17       13   
    5    Yogi Berra               1950      597       28       12   
    6    Vic Power                1958      590       16       14   
    7    Tris Speaker             1923      574       17       15   
    8    Lou Boudreau             1948      560       18        9   
    9    Joe DiMaggio             1941      541       30       13   
    10   Billy Southworth         1926      507       16       10   
    11   Ernie Lombardi           1938      489       19       14   
    12   Don Mueller              1951      469       16       13   
    13   Bill Dickey              1932      423       15       13   
    14   Ken Williams             1925      411       25       14   
    15   Lou Skizas               1957      376       18       15   
    16   Ernie Lombardi           1945      368       19       11 
    
    
    SEASON
    1920-2010
    HOMERUNS >= 20
    STRIKEOUTS <= 20
    
    AT BATS                       YEAR     AB       HR       SO     
    1    Lefty O'Doul             1929      638       32       19   
    2    Tommy Holmes             1945      636       28        9   
    3    Yogi Berra               1950      597       28       12   
    4    Lefty O'Doul             1932      595       21       20   
    5    Frank McCormick          1944      581       20       17   
    6    Yogi Berra               1951      547       27       20   
    T7   Joe DiMaggio             1941      541       30       13   
    T7   Yogi Berra               1955      541       27       20   
    9    Irish Meusel             1925      516       21       19   
    10   Joe DiMaggio             1939      462       30       20   
    11   Ernie Lombardi           1939      450       20       19   
    12   Bill Dickey              1936      423       22       16   
    13   Ken Williams             1925      411       25       14   
    
    SEASON
    1920-2010
    HOMERUNS >= 25
    STRIKEOUTS <= 25
    
    AT BATS                       YEAR     AB       HR       SO     
    1    Bill Terry               1932      643       28       23   
    2    Lefty O'Doul             1929      638       32       19   
    3    Tommy Holmes             1945      636       28        9   
    4    Joe DiMaggio             1938      599       32       21   
    5    Yogi Berra               1950      597       28       12   
    6    Yogi Berra               1951      547       27       20   
    T7   Yogi Berra               1955      541       27       20   
    T7   Joe DiMaggio             1941      541       30       13   
    9    Yogi Berra               1952      534       30       24   
    10   Bill Dickey              1937      530       29       22   
    11   Joe DiMaggio             1946      503       25       24   
    12   Joe DiMaggio             1939      462       30       20   
    13   Bill Dickey              1938      454       27       22   
    14   Ken Williams             1925      411       25       14   
    15   Ted Williams             1950      334       28       21   
    16   Ted Williams             1955      320       28       24   
    17   Johnny Mize              1950      274       25       24   
    
    
    SEASON
    1920-2010
    HOMERUNS >= 30
    STRIKEOUTS <= 30
    
    AT BATS                       YEAR     AB       HR       SO     
    1    Lefty O'Doul             1929      638       32       19   
    2    Joe DiMaggio             1938      599       32       21   
    3    Joe DiMaggio             1948      594       39       30   
    4    Willard Marshall         1947      587       36       30   
    5    Joe DiMaggio             1941      541       30       13   
    6    Yogi Berra               1952      534       30       24   
    7    Yogi Berra               1956      521       30       29   
    8    Joe DiMaggio             1940      508       31       30   
    9    Joe DiMaggio             1939      462       30       20   
    10   Ted Williams             1941      456       37       27   
    
    
    
    SEASON
    1920-2010
    HOMERUNS >= 35
    STRIKEOUTS <= 35
    
    AT BATS                       YEAR     AB       HR       SO     
    1    Stan Musial              1948      611       39       34   
    2    Joe DiMaggio             1948      594       39       30   
    3    Willard Marshall         1947      587       36       30   
    4    Ken Williams             1922      585       39       31   
    5    Lou Gehrig               1934      579       49       31   
    6    Ted Kluszewski           1954      573       49       35   
    7    Ted Kluszewski           1953      570       40       34   
    8    Al Simmons               1930      554       36       34   
    9    Ted Kluszewski           1956      517       35       31   
    10   Andy Pafko               1950      514       36       32   
    11   Ted Williams             1941      456       37       27  
    
    SEASON
    1920-2010
    HOMERUNS >= 40
    STRIKEOUTS <= 40
    
    AT BATS                       YEAR     AB       HR       SO     
    1    Joe DiMaggio             1937      621       46       37   
    2    Ted Kluszewski           1955      612       47       40   
    3    Lou Gehrig               1934      579       49       31   
    4    Ted Kluszewski           1954      573       49       35   
    5    Ted Kluszewski           1953      570       40       34   
    6    Johnny Mize              1948      560       40       37   
    7    Mel Ott                  1929      545       42       38 
    
    SEASON
    1920-2010
    HOMERUNS >= 45
    STRIKEOUTS <= 45
    
    AT BATS                       YEAR     AB       HR       SO     
    1    Joe DiMaggio             1937      621       46       37   
    2    Ted Kluszewski           1955      612       47       40   
    3    Johnny Mize              1947      586       51       42   
    4    Lou Gehrig               1934      579       49       31   
    5    Ted Kluszewski           1954      573       49       35   
    6    Barry Bonds              2004      373       45       41   
    
    SEASON
    1920-2010
    HOMERUNS >= 50
    STRIKEOUTS <= 50
    
    AT BATS                       YEAR     AB       HR       SO     
    1    Johnny Mize              1947      586       51       42
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    Re: Rare feat: More HR's than K's in a season

    Quote Originally Posted by gonelong View Post
    Be curious how the rate of these occurances changed once "modern" relief pitching took hold. I suspect they dropped quite a bit. Nothing will slow down HR and increse Ks more then the oppossing manager brining in a guy who's specific job is to get guys like you out.

    GL
    I saw WOY's lists, but in the original list, there were only two players after 1956, George Brett in 1980 and Barry Bonds in 2004 and steroids aside, his numbers were just crazy that season (617 BA's, but only 389 BA's, 232 walks). Klu & Yogi Berra were the last two prior to those, both in 1956. For all the folklore about Yogi and his cockeyed view of the world, one can forget that he was a really good ballplayer.
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    Re: Rare feat: More HR's than K's in a season

    But the approach to the game in the batters box changed drastically in the 50's, more K's came in that era and right beside that is the rise in HR's across both leagues, plus the advent of the relief pitcher and the introduction of the slider made the game harder for the hitter to hit for power without piling up some K's.


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