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    BYU dismisses key player for "not following honor code"

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6172760

    Some of the rules on the "honor code"

    • Be honest
    • Live a chaste and virtuous life
    • Obey the law and all campus policies
    • Use clean language
    • Respect others
    • Abstain from alcoholic beverages, tobacco, tea, coffee and substance abuse
    • Participate regularly in church services
    • Observe the Dress and Grooming Standards
    • Encourage others in their commitment to comply with the Honor Code
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    Re: BYU dismisses key player for "not following honor code"

    Well good for BYU I guess for sticking to their guns.

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    Re: BYU dismisses key player for "not following honor code"

    I heard on the radio today that a "source" said it was for cheating.

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    Re: BYU dismisses key player for "not following honor code"

    • Be honest
    I am pretty sure I told a lie or two in college. Nothing major but not 100% honest.

    • Live a chaste and virtuous life
    Don't think I abided by this one in college. Don't a lot of Mormans get married early and finish school at an older age because of their missions? I guess if you marry at the age of 18 its easier to live a chaste lift.

    • Obey the law and all campus policies
    I am pretty sure I broke a campus law during my time in college.

    • Use clean language
    Fail

    • Respect others
    I did this.

    • Abstain from alcoholic beverages, tobacco, tea, coffee and substance abuse
    Fail, fail, pass, fail, pass.

    • Participate regularly in church services
    Fail.

    • Observe the Dress and Grooming Standards
    I went times without shaving for a week or two. I liked the freedom.

    • Encourage others in their commitment to comply with the Honor Code
    I told a roommate to have a drink. So I guess I failed that.

    Don't get me wrong I realize that BYU is a Mormon School and have different principles that most universities in America. But good lord those are some strict guidelines. Could you imagine if ND or BC or any other Catholic University mandated that all students followed Vatican 2 to a tee?

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    Re: BYU dismisses key player for "not following honor code"

    Don't get me wrong I realize that BYU is a Mormon School and have different principles that most universities in America. But good lord those are some strict guidelines. Could you imagine if ND or BC or any other Catholic University mandated that all students followed Vatican 2 to a tee?
    Yeah, I'd never fit in there. Having said that, no one has a gun to these players' heads when it comes to choosing to attend BYU. How did Jim McMahon survive there?

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    Re: BYU dismisses key player for "not following honor code"

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    Yeah, I'd never fit in there. Having said that, no one has a gun to these players' heads when it comes to choosing to attend BYU. How did Jim McMahon survive there?
    If I recall the rumors correctly, they overlooked an awful lot.

    I was listening to ESPN radio this morning and Colin Cowherd was talking about how impressive it is that they're able to field such competitive teams when they make all the students comply with such a strict code, but my guess is that if you're raised as a LDS(Over 13 million members worldwide.)
    a) These things don't seem strange to you by the time you get to college, and b) Brigham Young is probably the ultimate place to attend.

    It's sort of like what going to Notre Dame was for the Catholic immigrants in the 30's,40's, 50's etc.. It was the ultimate place to go, and as opposed to the rest of the world which spit on you, going to Notre Dame meant the vast majority of the people there were Catholic just like you.
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    Re: BYU dismisses key player for "not following honor code"

    As an aside re:college football/off-field behavior, check out this report from SI.com.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ime/index.html

    Found it very interesting one of the schools with the most offenders was.....Boise State.

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    Re: BYU dismisses key player for "not following honor code"

    Steve Young was just on and said that usually it's more of the "spirit of the law" so he must have done something major.

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    Re: BYU dismisses key player for "not following honor code"

    The only question I have about this is why can't they drink tea? Tea, really?
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    Re: BYU dismisses key player for "not following honor code"

    Quote Originally Posted by Redhook View Post
    The only question I have about this is why can't they drink tea? Tea, really?
    I think that is a caffeine issue. I think they consider it a stimulant but I'm not 100% sure on that one.

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    Re: BYU dismisses key player for "not following honor code"

    Quote Originally Posted by Orenda View Post
    I think that is a caffeine issue. I think they consider it a stimulant but I'm not 100% sure on that one.
    The Mormon's teach against caffeine.

    Turns out according to the Salt Lake Tribune he was having premarital sex.
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    Re: BYU dismisses key player for "not following honor code"

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    The Mormon's teach against caffeine.

    Turns out according to the Salt Lake Tribune he was having premarital sex.
    BYU better dig in, the press may hammer them for this one.

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    Re: BYU dismisses key player for "not following honor code"

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    BYU better dig in, the press may hammer them for this one.
    Why would the press hammer them? I understand they are very, very clear about the honor code in the recruiting process. It's not like you show up on campus one day and they foist the honor code on you.

    I think you'd have to be crazy to go there, but if you make that decision it's on you if you break the code and get bounced.

    BTW, the Lobos are doing the hammering for now. Bye, bye #1 seed.

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    Re: BYU dismisses key player for "not following honor code"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Red View Post
    Why would the press hammer them? I understand they are very, very clear about the honor code in the recruiting process. It's not like you show up on campus one day and they foist the honor code on you.

    I think you'd have to be crazy to go there, but if you make that decision it's on you if you break the code and get bounced.

    BTW, the Lobos are doing the hammering for now. Bye, bye #1 seed.
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    Re: BYU dismisses key player for "not following honor code"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Red View Post
    Why would the press hammer them?
    Like I said, it may. This reeks of one of those storys that could snowball if it gets started rolling. Augusta National is doing nothing illegal, but it took a big PR hit a few years back. (Not trying to compare apples to apples, but sometimes the media likes to champion a cause) The media is nowhere close to being as conservative as BYU...I can see Davies being made out to be the victim here.

    But again, it could go either way.
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