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    Erardi: No Platoon In LF Bad Move For Reds

    I've always been a fan of John Erardi and thought I'd share this article with the members of RZ.


    http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...bad-move-Reds-

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    Re: Erardi: No Platoon In LF Bad Move For Reds

    Goldstein sees Leake and Wood as middle-to-back-of-the rotation guys (Leake a 3-4; Wood a 4-5) , "but you need guys like that to win divisions.”
    Wow...that opened my eyes, especially from a well respected guy like that. Conflicts with a lot of what I have read on here.
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    Re: Erardi: No Platoon In LF Bad Move For Reds

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    Re: Erardi: No Platoon In LF Bad Move For Reds

    Loved this article. Glad he wrote it.
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    Re: Erardi: No Platoon In LF Bad Move For Reds

    Definitely agree. Sappelt should be starting over both the vets.

    You know, a bench with Gomes and Lewis doesn't sound half bad, actually.
    Sabermetrics is this: A batter's goal is to extend the inning. Extend enough innings and you're going to score runs. Extend more innings than your opponent and you're going to score more runs than him.

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    Re: Erardi: No Platoon In LF Bad Move For Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    Definitely agree. Sappelt should be starting over both the vets.

    You know, a bench with Gomes and Lewis doesn't sound half bad, actually.
    What ever happened to Heisey?

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    Re: Erardi: No Platoon In LF Bad Move For Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    What ever happened to Heisey?
    He's a useful guy to have around.

    And if Hermida was going to put it all together, he would have by now. Guys like him don't sign minor league deals unless something's seriously gone off the rails there. But he'll be useful as well in a limited role.
    Sabermetrics is this: A batter's goal is to extend the inning. Extend enough innings and you're going to score runs. Extend more innings than your opponent and you're going to score more runs than him.

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    Re: Erardi: No Platoon In LF Bad Move For Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    He's a useful guy to have around.

    And if Hermida was going to put it all together, he would have by now. Guys like him don't sign minor league deals unless something's seriously gone off the rails there. But he'll be useful as well in a limited role.
    Ryan Ludwick, Nelson Cruz, Jose Bautista, even Cody Ross just off the top of my head have became solid to pretty good players after their careers fizzled. Hermida is just now 27, there is a laundry list of guys who didn't really get their careers in shape until that age.

    Our very own Brandon Phillips was 25 before he got things turned around in his career.

    Nobody is banking on Hermida getting a lot of playing time and maybe not even making the roster. But you have to take minor league flyers on some guys that have talent, there is no risk in it.
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    Re: Erardi: No Platoon In LF Bad Move For Reds

    Yorman Grandal? :O)
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    Re: Erardi: No Platoon In LF Bad Move For Reds

    What ever happened to Heisey?
    I'd ask the same about Hermida. Guy's still got the highest ceiling of any of the LF candidates.
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    Re: Erardi: No Platoon In LF Bad Move For Reds

    Couple of things that I caught notice of that I didn't agree with at all.

    Goldstein sees Leake and Wood as middle-to-back-of-the rotation guys (Leake a 3-4; Wood a 4-5) , "but you need guys like that to win divisions.”
    To me this is too text book of an answer. Neither possess blazing fastballs or drop off the face curve balls so they can't be ace quality. It seems like he is to enamored with slotting pitchers on what they don't have instead of what they do have.

    Goldstein thinks 84-85 victories could win the NL Central this year.

    "The computer is calling for a three-team race: Cincinnati, Milwaukee, St. Louis, not in any order. Milwaukee improved their pitching a lot with Greinke and Marcum, but they've still got holes. And St. Louis lost Wainwright."
    I will be actually shocked if only 84 W's takes the division. I see the Cards without Wainwright as an 85 win team. I think both the Reds and Brewers can win upwards of 90 games this season.

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    Re: Erardi: No Platoon In LF Bad Move For Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    I will be actually shocked if only 84 W's takes the division. I see the Cards without Wainwright as an 85 win team. I think both the Reds and Brewers can win upwards of 90 games this season.
    Same here. I don't think 84 wins comes close this year.
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    Re: Erardi: No Platoon In LF Bad Move For Reds

    Goldstein sees Leake and Wood as middle-to-back-of-the rotation guys (Leake a 3-4; Wood a 4-5) , "but you need guys like that to win divisions.”
    A guy from a Pirates blog reworked the old Hardball Times analysis about what teams should expect from each pitching slot, and he came up with this based on 2010 numbers:

    #1 - 3.36 ERA or better
    #2 - 3.36 - 3.88 ERA
    #3 - 3.88 - 4.38 ERA
    #4 - 4.38 - 5.15 ERA
    #5 - 5.15 ERA or worse
    So I think he's probably under-rating Wood, since a guy who definitely belongs in a major-league rotation -- as I believe Wood to be -- is (on a league-wide level) at least a #4. #5 starters are, almost by definition, not good enough to keep a job for very long.

    Either of those two guys could potentially be better than a #3 but as to the distribution of "possible" versus "likely," it's hard to say.

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    Re: Erardi: No Platoon In LF Bad Move For Reds

    And if Hermida was going to put it all together, he would have by now. Guys like him don't sign minor league deals unless something's seriously gone off the rails there.
    Ryan Ludwick started to emerge at age 28. His first big year in full-time duty was at age 29. Hermida just turned 27. Given the upside, you can't close the book on him.
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    Re: Erardi: No Platoon In LF Bad Move For Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Ryan Ludwick started to emerge at age 28. His first big year in full-time duty was at age 29. Hermida just turned 27. Given the upside, you can't close the book on him.
    Hermida actually started to put it together, but then regressed. Not a good sign. However, if he does get straightened out, a la Ludwick, then more power to him. Just, I wouldn't rely on that happening in any sort of way right now.
    Sabermetrics is this: A batter's goal is to extend the inning. Extend enough innings and you're going to score runs. Extend more innings than your opponent and you're going to score more runs than him.

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