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    RZ Greatest player at each positon tournament/ catcher nomination thread

    First, thanks to Oxblood for the idea and the OF tourney. I'll be taking it from here. I'm not sure what I'll do when we get to pitchers, but for each position at catcher and IF, I'm gonna take the top 20 by B-R WAR on their list of top 1,000 position players by WAR, and then leave the other dozen spots open for nominations, and those will be the 32 nominees.

    Once we get enough nominees, I'll start the catcher thread, I plan on making each round last a week as Ox did.

    So, the 1st 20 nominees for catcher:

    1. Johnny Bench
    2. Ivan Rodriguez
    3. Carlton Fisk
    4. Gary Carter
    5. Yogi Berra
    6. Mike Piazza
    7. Bill Dickey
    8. Mickey Cochrane
    9. Ted Simmons
    10. Gabby Hartnett
    11. Jorge Posada
    12. Wally Schang
    13. Thurman Munson
    14. Bill Freehan
    15. Darrell Porter
    16. Ernie Lombardi
    17. Joe Mauer
    18. Jason Kendall
    19. Charlie Bennett
    20. Roy Campanella

    Joe Torre, Buck Ewing, and Roger Bresnahan all had a lot of time at catcher and made the WAR list above some of those that I have here, but they didn't quite play enough games, or a large enough % of their games at catcher for me to put them here. If you feel differently, nominate them!

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    Re: RZ Greatest player at each positon tournament/ catcher nomination thread

    Jim Sundberg?
    Mike Soscia?
    Bob Boone?
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    Victor Martinez

    Another name to consider.
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    Re: RZ Greatest player at each positon tournament/ catcher nomination thread

    For Chip: Javy Valentin.
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    Re: RZ Greatest player at each positon tournament/ catcher nomination thread

    1. Johnny Bench
    2. Ivan Rodriguez
    3. Carlton Fisk
    4. Gary Carter
    5. Yogi Berra
    6. Mike Piazza
    7. Bill Dickey
    8. Mickey Cochrane
    9. Ted Simmons
    10. Gabby Hartnett
    11. Jorge Posada
    12. Wally Schang
    13. Thurman Munson
    14. Bill Freehan
    15. Darrell Porter
    16. Ernie Lombardi
    17. Joe Mauer
    18. Jason Kendall
    19. Charlie Bennett
    20. Roy Campanella
    21. Jim Sundberg (35.1)
    22. Bob Boone (26.1)
    23. Victor Martinez (25.2)
    24. Mike Scioscia (23.7)

    Forgot to mention that of the nominees we get, they will be ordered by WAR also. I'm gonna assume that Rich's was a complete joke, lol. Keep 'em comin'!

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    Re: RZ Greatest player at each positon tournament/ catcher nomination thread

    Varitek?

    Should we be realistic and just give Bench a bye to the finals?

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    Re: RZ Greatest player at each positon tournament/ catcher nomination thread

    Joe Mauer

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    Re: RZ Greatest player at each positon tournament/ catcher nomination thread

    Benito Santiago?

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    Re: RZ Greatest player at each positon tournament/ catcher nomination thread

    1. Johnny Bench
    2. Ivan Rodriguez
    3. Carlton Fisk
    4. Gary Carter
    5. Yogi Berra
    6. Mike Piazza
    7. Bill Dickey
    8. Mickey Cochrane
    9. Ted Simmons
    10. Gabby Hartnett
    11. Jorge Posada
    12. Wally Schang
    13. Thurman Munson
    14. Bill Freehan
    15. Darrell Porter
    16. Ernie Lombardi
    17. Joe Mauer
    18. Jason Kendall
    19. Charlie Bennett
    20. Roy Campanella
    21. Jim Sundberg (35.1)
    22. Bob Boone (26.1)
    23. Victor Martinez (25.2)
    24. Benito Santiago (23.8)
    25. Mike Scioscia (23.7)
    26. Jason Varitek (23.1)

    Mauer's already on the list at #17.

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    Re: RZ Greatest player at each positon tournament/ catcher nomination thread

    I nominate a pair of Hall of Famers not on the original list: Josh Gibson and Cincinnati's own Buck Ewing.

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    Re: RZ Greatest player at each positon tournament/ catcher nomination thread

    Joe Torre probably should be there, even though his greatest season (1971) came as a third baseman.
    Elston Howard is probably one of the top 20 or so catchers ever, and was the AL MVP in 1963.
    Lance Parrish had some big years with the Tigers.
    Wally Schang was a good catcher in the 1920s.
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    Re: RZ Greatest player at each positon tournament/ catcher nomination thread

    1. Johnny Bench
    2. Ivan Rodriguez
    3. Carlton Fisk
    4. Gary Carter
    5. Yogi Berra
    6. Mike Piazza
    7. Bill Dickey
    8. Mickey Cochrane
    9. Ted Simmons
    10. Gabby Hartnett
    11. Jorge Posada
    12. Wally Schang
    13. Thurman Munson
    14. Bill Freehan
    15. Darrell Porter
    16. Ernie Lombardi
    17. Joe Mauer
    18. Jason Kendall
    19. Charlie Bennett
    20. Roy Campanella
    21. Joe Torre (55.6)
    22. Buck Ewing (51.8)
    23. Lance Parrish (35.7)
    24. Jim Sundberg (35.1)
    25. Elston Howard (28.2)
    26. Bob Boone (26.1)
    27. Victor Martinez (25.2)
    28. Benito Santiago (23.8)
    29. Mike Scioscia (23.7)
    30. Jason Varitek (23.1)
    32. Josh Gibson (-.--)

    Schang is already on the list at #12.

    Gibson never played MLB due to segregation, but he is in the HOF so I included him. I am putting him as #32 on the ballot though, as I don't see a better way to do it. Yes, that puts him against Bench, but that's too bad for him.

    1 spot left, next nomination gets it.

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    Re: RZ Greatest player at each positon tournament/ catcher nomination thread

    here's a great resource re catchers
    http://members.tripod.com/bb_catchers/catchers/list.htm

    any of these guy fit the bill and if two are higher then Tek feel free to bump him as he was my other nom.

    Rick Dempsey
    John Roseboro
    Ray Fosse
    Tony Pena
    or from the 1970 enemies list
    Manny Sanguillen
    John Stearns
    Butch Yeager
    Gene Tenace

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    Re: RZ Greatest player at each positon tournament/ catcher nomination thread

    1. Johnny Bench
    2. Ivan Rodriguez
    3. Carlton Fisk
    4. Gary Carter
    5. Yogi Berra
    6. Mike Piazza
    7. Bill Dickey
    8. Mickey Cochrane
    9. Ted Simmons
    10. Gabby Hartnett
    11. Jorge Posada
    12. Wally Schang
    13. Thurman Munson
    14. Bill Freehan
    15. Darrell Porter
    16. Ernie Lombardi
    17. Joe Mauer
    18. Jason Kendall
    19. Charlie Bennett
    20. Roy Campanella
    21. Joe Torre (55.6)
    22. Buck Ewing (51.8)
    23. Gene Tenace (48.7)
    24. Lance Parrish (35.7)
    25. Jim Sundberg (35.1)
    26. Elston Howard (28.2)
    27. Bob Boone (26.1)
    28. Victor Martinez (25.2)
    29. Manny Sanguillen (24.6)
    30. Benito Santiago (23.8)
    31. Mike Scioscia (23.7)
    32. Josh Gibson (-.--)

    Alright, that's all the nominations.

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