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    Thank goodness Volquez was foolish enough to turn down the LTC

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    Re: Thank goodness Volquez was foolish enough to turn down the LTC

    Holy mother of overreactions.
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    Re: Thank goodness Volquez was foolish enough to turn down the LTC

    Jim Maloney says hi.

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    Re: Thank goodness Volquez was foolish enough to turn down the LTC

    SHOCKING that this guy has never been the same since being busted for PEDs.
    Really?

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    Re: Thank goodness Volquez was foolish enough to turn down the LTC

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    Really?
    No, not really. It was sarcasm. Volquez has one good year (his only good year), then gets busted for PEDs ... and now he's struggling. Hmmm. Don't need to be a private investigator to figure out that one.

    He did get hurt, but he should be fully recovered from Tommy John by now. The guy just has terrible command and I would be surprised if that ever changes. I would love to be wrong, believe me. '

    And it's not just about this game, so don't suggest this is some overreaction based on two innings. It's about everything I've seen out of this guy, save the one good season he had. Heck, he was so bad with the Rangers they had to send him all the way down to low-A to get himself straightened out. The guy is a head case and I will be surprised if he's ever consistently a good MLB pitcher. And we traded a flat out stud to get him. Depressing! (Just being honest here. I'm sure there are those that agree and disagree. That's fine. That's what message boards are for.)

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    Re: Thank goodness Volquez was foolish enough to turn down the LTC

    The guy falls asleep on the mound all the time. Example: The double steal in the first inning when he was ignoring the runners. (Including one of the best base-stealers in the game in Bourn.) Then he balks the next inning. So, he even struggles with the small stuff. Good pitchers don't do stuff like that.

    And youth can't be an excuse any longer. The guy is 28 years old. He's no spring chicken.

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    Re: Thank goodness Volquez was foolish enough to turn down the LTC

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey View Post
    No, not really. It was sarcasm. Volquez has one good year (his only good year), then gets busted for PEDs ... and now he's struggling. Hmmm. Don't need to be a private investigator to figure out that one.

    He did get hurt, but he should be fully recovered from Tommy John by now. The guy just has terrible command and I would be surprised if that ever changes. I would love to be wrong, believe me. '

    And it's not just about this game, so don't suggest this is some overreaction based on two innings. It's about everything I've seen out of this guy, save the one good season he had. Heck, he was so bad with the Rangers they had to send him all the way down to low-A to get himself straightened out. The guy is a head case and I will be surprised if he's ever consistently a good MLB pitcher. And we traded a flat out stud to get him. Depressing! (Just being honest here. I'm sure there are those that agree and disagree. That's fine. That's what message boards are for.)
    Lol. I like how you put his Tommy John surgery as an after thought. He's still less than 100 innings removed from it.
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    Re: Thank goodness Volquez was foolish enough to turn down the LTC

    All that Blitz has said here has my full backing, FTR. I'm done with EV... to think some people still try to justify The Trade.

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    Re: Thank goodness Volquez was foolish enough to turn down the LTC

    No, not really. It was sarcasm. Volquez has one good year (his only good year), then gets busted for PEDs ... and now he's struggling. Hmmm. Don't need to be a private investigator to figure out that one.
    Was that a sarcastic claim of sarcasm? I'm lost

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    Re: Thank goodness Volquez was foolish enough to turn down the LTC

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Lol. I like how you put his Tommy John surgery as an after thought. He's still less than 100 innings removed from it.
    That's fine. I'm sure there are going to be plenty of people that disagree with me. Just calling it like I see it. And again, I would love to be wrong about this guy. But even the little things he doesn't do well. Falling asleep on the mound and not checking the runners has nothing to do with him coming back from Tommy John. And his command is just atrocious most of the time. He's hitting 96 on the gun, so he's got the velocity. Just everything else is missing.

    And a haircut wouldn't hurt! Haha.

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    Re: Thank goodness Volquez was foolish enough to turn down the LTC

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    All that Blitz has said here has my full backing, FTR. I'm done with EV... to think some people still try to justify The Trade.

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    Re: Thank goodness Volquez was foolish enough to turn down the LTC

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey View Post
    That's fine. I'm sure there are going to be plenty of people that disagree with me. Just calling it like I see it. And again, I would love to be wrong about this guy. But even the little things he doesn't do well. Falling asleep on the mound and not checking the runners has nothing to do with him coming back from Tommy John. And his command is just atrocious most of the time. He's hitting 96 on the gun, so he's got the velocity. Just everything else is missing.

    And a haircut wouldn't hurt! Haha.
    For the love of God don't start with that.

    So somebody coming off of Tommy John surgery is struggling with command? No way.
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    Re: Thank goodness Volquez was foolish enough to turn down the LTC

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    For the love of God don't start with that.

    So somebody coming off of Tommy John surgery is struggling with command? No way.
    You're not very adept on knowing what is a joke, even when "haha" is followed by the comment. I don't care what the guy's hair looks like. Just pitch good. I was just adding that in there because some people in this thread were getting a little too serious and wanted to add some comic relief. You have to admit that even Mrs. Volquez would probably tell him he looks bad with that 'do.

    BTW, on a serious note, did you miss it when Volquez struggled big time with command during his minor league days (and even to an extent during his one good year with the Reds)? You are being disingenuous pretending like the command issues only came after Tommy John. You don't really believe that, do you?

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    Re: Thank goodness Volquez was foolish enough to turn down the LTC

    He's never going to have great command. He's a high strikeout, high walk, low contact guy. That's who is. It shouldn't be surprising he's struggling even more with his command coming off TJ though.
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    Re: Thank goodness Volquez was foolish enough to turn down the LTC

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    Jim Maloney says hi.
    I won't be surprised in the least if Josh Hamilton has a better career when we look back on it. But up to this point, you are right.


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