I'm personally fine with the lineup now. I think Rolen is the one guy who can do well with no protection behind him (aside from Votto, but we're trying to maximize his production with him being the focal point.) I like...
Stubbs
Heisey/Lewis
Votto
Phillips
Bruce
Rolen
Although I also like Bruce in the 2 hole...
Stubbs
Bruce
Votto
Phillips
Rolen
Although I don't think Dusty like the LL followed by extreme R.
Although, keeping
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reds44 (04-18-2014)
And all those players are having great seasons.
I think without swerving off into supplementing arguments, the point is Jay Bruce is having a good season. Could he get better or spread his production out in a "prettier" fashion, sure. But don't lose sight of the fact that he is having a good year so far.
I ask this question, does he have a shot at being an All-Star? What does he need to do between now and that 2nd weekend in July to be an All-Star? Would love to see it.
2009 Attendance Record: 3-5 2010 Attendance Record: 2-9 2015 Attendance Record: 2-0
2011 Attendance Record: 3-4 2012 Attendance Record: 3-4
2013 Attendance Record: 5-2 2014 Attendance Record: 3-1
Bruce is now tied for 10th in OPS in the NL.
Was reading this thread and, for the heck of it, I decided to compare Jay to other RF's on fangraphs.
OK, here's a problem I have with WAR. Jay is a 1.2 and Choo is 1.6.
C'mon, seriously?
Choo: .250/.332/.393/.724 (5 HR, 22 RBI)
Bruce: .271/.341/.512/.853 (11 HR, 27 RBI)
So Choo is that much better in RF? I've read on here that UZR can only really measured accurately over a long time period (say 3 years). So it seems to me that UZR kind of messes up WAR when looking at it within a season. Am I missing something here?
2009 Attendance Record: 3-5 2010 Attendance Record: 2-9 2015 Attendance Record: 2-0
2011 Attendance Record: 3-4 2012 Attendance Record: 3-4
2013 Attendance Record: 5-2 2014 Attendance Record: 3-1
That is why scouts and "eyes" are still a great way to evaluate talent and likely always will be. Not trying to dismiss the value of stats such as WAR and UZR and what not, but they have their faults just like scouts to.
Someone knowledgeable about the advanced statistics, but smart enough to be able to evaluate players with their "eyes" is really the type of person I want evaluating talent.
Bruce is coming around and coming around fast.
"Today was the byproduct of us thinking we can come back from anything." - Joey Votto after blowing a 10-1 lead and holding on for the 12-11 win on 8/25/2010.
You guys think he's an All-Star as of right now?
2009 Attendance Record: 3-5 2010 Attendance Record: 2-9 2015 Attendance Record: 2-0
2011 Attendance Record: 3-4 2012 Attendance Record: 3-4
2013 Attendance Record: 5-2 2014 Attendance Record: 3-1
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