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    Barry Larkin for J.D. Drew and Rick Ankiel...

    Second, in the trailer the Baseball Tonight crew had set up to watch afternoon baseball, former Reds shortstop Barry Larkin sat in a back corner and told me how he expected to be a Cardinals someday, someway (4). In 1998, Larkin reportedly asked for a trade and the Cardinals were in, out and in the mix for his services. At one point, GM Walt Jocketty spoke with the Reds about Larkin, but they wanted J. D. Drew and Rick Ankiel in return for the All-Star shortstop, per a report at the time from P-D Hall of Famer Rick Hummel. Larkin reminisced Sunday about how he thought for a time he'd inherit Ozzie Smith's position, and he wanted that opportunity.

    "I always loved coming here," Larkin said. "They loved their players here. I remember sitting in the dugout once at the old place (Busch II) and looking out at the field, at Ozzie Smith there at shortstop, and thinking this would be the place I'd play some day, and with Ozzie leaving that seemed to be the chance. I didn't know if it would work, being the NL Central and being rivals made it tough. They asked me to speak at Ozzie Smith Day and then (the next day) I hit two home runs. I'm running around the bases and when I pass second base, Ozzie's like, ‘You've got to cut that out.' There's this romance between the players and the fans. That's how it seems from the outside. I thought as something I wanted to do at some point in my career."

    Larkin spent his 19 seasons with Cincinnati.


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    Re: Barry Larkin for J.D. Drew and Rick Ankiel...

    Well, that's not exactly what I had hoped to read.

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    Re: Barry Larkin for J.D. Drew and Rick Ankiel...

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    Well, that's not exactly what I had hoped to read.
    The day my baseball cherry was busted.
    Rose likes being photographed. A vain man without a trace of self-consciousness, secure in his image, Rose is the Muhammad Ali of baseball.

    On his head is a Phillie cap. "What do you think of the Phils, Pete?"

    "They need me." Rose points to his chest and grins. Click.

    Someone hands him another cap. Rose removes the small, plastic insert from the front of the Phillie cap and puts it in the new one, so that it will sit on his head just so. "O.K., Pete. The California Angels. What do you think of?"

    " Gene Autry." Rose grins, baring the gap in his front teeth. "Maybe he'll give me his horse if I sign. What was the name of that horse? Champion? Champion!" Click.

    Next cap. It bears the interlocking "S" and "D" of the Padres, owned by McDonald's magnate Ray Kroc. " San Diego had two Pete Rose Days this year," Rose divulges. "Two. Ray Kroc likes me because I'm a self-made, aggressive guy like he is, and he likes me because I help his younger players. I go to the park early and work with them. He appreciates that." Rose grins and bites into an imaginary Big Mac. Click.

    He slips on the next cap, and a bystander says, "The Dodgers, Pete. National League champs. Los Angeles ."

    "Ahh, endorsements!" says Pete. Click.

    "O.K., Pete, how about a frown?"

    "You want a frown? I'll give you a frown. Give me that Reds cap."
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    Re: Barry Larkin for J.D. Drew and Rick Ankiel...

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    The day my baseball cherry was busted.


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    Re: Barry Larkin for J.D. Drew and Rick Ankiel...

    The Reds had Larkin traded to the Mets too, after he told them to pay him, or trade him. They traded him, and he vetoed it.

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    Re: Barry Larkin for J.D. Drew and Rick Ankiel...

    I feel like I just read one of those alternative history books.

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    Re: Barry Larkin for J.D. Drew and Rick Ankiel...

    It's amazing that the Reds have had a string of one-team career players going back to the '60s (although a few years were covered by short-timers).

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    Re: Barry Larkin for J.D. Drew and Rick Ankiel...

    The grass is always greener....

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    Re: Barry Larkin for J.D. Drew and Rick Ankiel...

    He surely would have benefited from Big Mac's medicine closet.
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    Re: Barry Larkin for J.D. Drew and Rick Ankiel...

    It would be naive to think that every player who plays in his hometown believes in the concept of a "hometown discount."

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    Re: Barry Larkin for J.D. Drew and Rick Ankiel...

    Do you guys think that Rick Ankiel would still be a pitcher if this trade had been made?

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    Re: Barry Larkin for J.D. Drew and Rick Ankiel...

    Quote Originally Posted by MattyHo4Life View Post
    Do you guys think that Rick Ankiel would still be a pitcher if this trade had been made?
    Don Gullett would have fixed him. This would have been the crowning achievement of Gullett's career, leading him to eventually be promoted to manager, ahead of Dave Miley, when Jerry Narron was canned. Ankiel would anchor the Reds' staff (and payroll) leading Gully's tenure as skipper to continue through the present day. There would be buzz in the media and support among the fans for Gully to eventually succeed Jocketty when he retires in a few years.

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    Re: Barry Larkin for J.D. Drew and Rick Ankiel...

    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Tucker View Post
    I feel like I just read one of those alternative history books.
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    Re: Barry Larkin for J.D. Drew and Rick Ankiel...

    OK, which one of you knuckleheads went back in time and stepped on a butterfly?

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    Re: Barry Larkin for J.D. Drew and Rick Ankiel...

    Larkin should be grateful it never happened. Not that his stats don't make him worthy, but part of the reason he will probably go into the hall of fame next will be because he spent his entire career with one organization.


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