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    Re: 5/23/11 - Reds at Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    Never let facts get in the way of a good narrative 44.

    5-0 Phils
    Yea, I'm really exaggerating how awful this starting pitching has been. So Cueto got into the 8th once. He also can't beat the pirates at home.

    Nice job doing nothing to improve this team all winter Walt!


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    Re: 5/23/11 - Reds at Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by Red in Chicago View Post
    why does it take thom until the bottom of the 3rd to discuss the roster moves today? most of us don't get to hear / see reds live...
    Anything "controversial" or "negative to the franchise" is always brushed under the rug I've noticed.

    See the Leake incident.

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    Re: 5/23/11 - Reds at Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds/Flyers Fan View Post
    Yea, I'm really exaggerating how awful this starting pitching has been. So Cueto got into the 8th once. He also can't beat the pirates at home.

    Nice job doing nothing to improve this team all winter Walt!
    Cueto is 2-1 with a 1.45 ERA right now and that's who you target?
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    A little bit off topic, but do you guys think that Jesse Winker profiles more like Pete Rose or is he just the next Hal Morris??

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    Re: 5/23/11 - Reds at Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    Anything "controversial" or "negative to the franchise" is always brushed under the rug I've noticed.

    See the Leake incident.
    Speaking of Leake he's given up 3 runs in 2 innings tonight in AAA.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scooter View Post
    A little bit off topic, but do you guys think that Jesse Winker profiles more like Pete Rose or is he just the next Hal Morris??

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    Re: 5/23/11 - Reds at Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey View Post
    You have no idea if this is true or not. I can't say I'm absolutely sure it would cost them a game (or three) and you can't say you're absolutely sure it wouldn't. Neither of us know for sure.

    But it definitely COULD cost them a win. Janish can't hit and can't get on base. But he's likely going to get more ABs than a better hitter in a particular game if you bat him second. That could cost you a win very easily. If you need a punch-and-judy hitter like Janish in your lineup due to defense, you bat him eighth. Only Dusty (who I otherwise like) can't see this.
    1. Batting order really doesn't have much effect on runs scored.
    2. Janish will get pinch hit for in any crucial situation.
    3. Games are decided by a collection of factors, the most important ones are who plays and who doesn't. Factors as small as where players are batting do not decide games on their own.
    Hoping to change my username to 75769023

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    Re: 5/23/11 - Reds at Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Cueto is 2-1 with a 1.45 ERA right now and that's who you target?
    When the facts get drawn out, you gotta fight to the death. Pull no punches

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    Re: 5/23/11 - Reds at Phillies

    9 to 0

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    Re: 5/23/11 - Reds at Phillies

    Ehehehehe we're back to being the Reds.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scooter View Post
    A little bit off topic, but do you guys think that Jesse Winker profiles more like Pete Rose or is he just the next Hal Morris??

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    Re: 5/23/11 - Reds at Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Cueto is 2-1 with a 1.45 ERA right now and that's who you target?
    Not targeting Cueto. Him and Bailey are the best of this bunch.

    This team is flat-out bad.

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    Re: 5/23/11 - Reds at Phillies

    This team is screwing around with too many bad pieces right now.

    Sooner or later Jocketty and Baker will realize they need to change some stuff. Like the SS, LFer, and bullpen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scooter View Post
    A little bit off topic, but do you guys think that Jesse Winker profiles more like Pete Rose or is he just the next Hal Morris??

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    Re: 5/23/11 - Reds at Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    1. Batting order really doesn't have much effect on runs scored.
    2. Janish will get pinch hit for in any crucial situation.
    3. Games are decided by a collection of factors, the most important ones are who plays and who doesn't. Factors as small as where players are batting do not decide games on their own.
    So a small factor like if Votto bats 9th, would never decide a game?

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    Re: 5/23/11 - Reds at Phillies

    Looks like Arroyo decided tonight would be his annual throw away game. Not a good time for that.

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    Re: 5/23/11 - Reds at Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    When the facts get drawn out, you gotta fight to the death. Pull no punches
    I don't think mentioning that "one" starter in "one" game has gone past the 7th all year so far changes his original point any though.

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    Re: 5/23/11 - Reds at Phillies

    I think Arroyo has bigger problems than just Mono. He is taking an absolute beating. This reminds me of the game in Toronto a few years back.


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