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    ESPN - 5 trades to make

    Reds trade C Ryan Hanigan to Rays for P Alex Cobb and C Kelly Shoppach.

    The Rays are getting no production from their John Jaso/Shoppach platoon. The Reds' 4.71 ERA from their rotation ranks 14th in the NL. Thus, a perfect trade matchup.
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    I wouldn't lose any sleep over trading away Ryan Hanigan, that's for sure. This club absolutely has to explore trading from their strengths (catching, stocked minor league system) to address some of the glaring holes (LF, SS, No. 1 starter)

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    This club absolutely has to explore trading from their strengths (catching, stocked minor league system) to address some of the glaring holes (LF, SS, No. 1 starter)
    This. Jocketty needs to make a move. He's slid by without rocking the boat too much so far, but this is the year he's got to make a splash IMO. Too many older prospects in AAA potentially losing value and way too many #3/4/5 starters that could be cashed in for something useful.

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    Re: ESPN - 5 trades to make

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds/Flyers Fan View Post
    I wouldn't lose any sleep over trading away Ryan Hanigan, that's for sure. This club absolutely has to explore trading from their strengths (catching, stocked minor league system) to address some of the glaring holes (LF, SS, No. 1 starter)
    Agreed and since this proposed trade does none of that, I just say "no".

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    The guys on the Rays they're talking aren't real difference makers. That's like adding Rheal Cormier to fix a bullpen or Brian Moehler and Sean Estes to fix a rotation.

    You want to make a splash, take a look at guys like Erick Aybar or Wilson Betemit and up, at minimum.
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    Re: ESPN - 5 trades to make

    how about trading Hanigan or Hernandez for help elsewhere and then calling us Mes?
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    Re: ESPN - 5 trades to make

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds/Flyers Fan View Post
    I wouldn't lose any sleep over trading away Ryan Hanigan, that's for sure. This club absolutely has to explore trading from their strengths (catching, stocked minor league system) to address some of the glaring holes (LF, SS, No. 1 starter)
    I agree....but Alex Cobb, while good, is not a number 1 starter. And Kelly Shoppach isn't something we need. If we're going to deal a catcher, I'd prefer it be Hernandez. But if it's Hanigan...then Mesoraco has to be our #1...certainly no need for Shoppach.

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    Re: ESPN - 5 trades to make

    The writer suggest that the Astros trade Hunter Pence. If the Astros agree with this, who would you trade to make him a Red?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    The writer suggest that the Astros trade Hunter Pence. If the Astros agree with this, who would you trade to make him a Red?
    I stopped reading after the author suggested the Mets trade Beltran to the Ms.
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    Re: ESPN - 5 trades to make

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    The writer suggest that the Astros trade Hunter Pence. If the Astros agree with this, who would you trade to make him a Red?
    Try to build a package of prospects without the catchers or Alonso. Frazier + one or two lesser guys. Except that guy thinks he is worth Dom Brown, which is a little much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    I stopped reading after the author suggested the Mets trade Beltran to the Ms.
    To be honest, these were the most realistic trade proposals I have seen on ESPN.com in awhile. However, that's like saying it was the sanest thing Charlie Sheen ever said.
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    Re: ESPN - 5 trades to make

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    Try to build a package of prospects without the catchers or Alonso. Frazier + one or two lesser guys. Except that guy thinks he is worth Dom Brown, which is a little much.
    The catchers & Alonso are exactly what the Astros don't need. So that won't be a problem. They're best 2 young players are Jason Castro (c) and Brett Wallace (1b) IMO. As for their needs...restocking the farm system. So mid to low level guys with solid upsides are most likely what they'd be seeking. They're not going to be very competitive in the next 2-4 years most likely, so MLB ready guys aren't going to be a necessity IMO. But maybe one MLB player to offset the salary issues might be in order. A replacement temporarily for the OF....Gomes?

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    Re: ESPN - 5 trades to make

    No to the Hannigan trade. That would hurt us more than it would help us.
    We can't run Hernandez out there everyday. Why would we want Shoppach if he stinks?
    Never heard of Cobb, but based on that article, I find it hard to believe he's any better than LeCure or Leake.
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    Re: ESPN - 5 trades to make

    If a catcher is going to get dealt it will be Hernandez.

    I don't think either will be dealt though. Ramon will leave in the offseason as a type A.
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    Re: ESPN - 5 trades to make

    Love his research on Arroyo. Talking about dumping him from the rotation because he has been horrible, glad he made that conclusion after the 9 runs in 3 IP bumped his E.R.A. from 4.11 to the mid 5's.

    Overall though I thought those were some pretty solid trade proposals that make sense for both side. The M's are 1 game under .500 and not far out with a putrid offense, Beltran would definitely help. Cobb has some good looking minor league numbers. Mez is hitting well enough to get a call up.
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