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    Retro-Gamer Krawhitham's Avatar
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    Votto needs more protection

    It needs to be a right handed bat (since Dusty will not use Back to Back lefties)

    It needs to come from one of these teams (these are the only teams more than 6 games out of a playoff spot)

    It needs to be a LF, SS, or 3B the Reds are good at all other positions

    The player needs to be cheap because the Reds have no budget, the cheaper the player the more it will cost the Reds in talent

    I do not think this team will deal anyone. They believe when Strasburg returns they have all the pieces to make a playoff team (I call BS)

    LA Dodgers
    Matt Kemp CF who can be moved to LF or Stubbs can be moved
    Matt Kemp 2011:$6.95M one more arbitration year

    San Diego
    Ryan Ludwick LF Rent a player $6.775M 2011

    Chicago Cubs Both are too costy for the Reds
    Alfonso Soriano LF Contract is a killer, but that should make him cheap talent wise (Maybe the Cubs eat some of the Contract)
    Alfonso Soriano 2010-14:$18M annually, full no-trade clause

    Aramis Ramirez 3B Power outage this season might not be any better than Rolen
    Aramis Ramirez 2011 - $14.6M player option 2012 - $16M club option ($2M buyout)

    Carlos Lee LF started slow last year too, but costs too much
    Carlos Lee 2011:$18.5M, 2012:$18.5M

    Hunter Pence RF be might be the one untouchable player Houston has
    Hunter Pence 2011 - 6.9M + 2 more arbitration years

    NY Mets
    Jason Bay LF has shown no signs of life in 2 years
    Jason Bay 2011:$16M, 2012:$16M, 2013:$16M, 2014:$17M club option ($3M buyout)

    Carlos Beltran RF looked good this season but is a rent a player
    Carlos Beltran 2011:$18.5M

    Jose Reyes SS he would be a rent a player and really not protection for Votto but a leadoff hitter
    Jose Reyes 2011 11m

    David Wright 3B DO IT DO IT DO IT it is not like he is a superstar
    David Wright 2011:$14M, 2012:$15M, 2013:$16M club option

    Delmon Young LF does not strike fear into pitchers (.213 BA this season)
    Delmon Young $5.375M (2011) + one more arbitration year

    what deals can be made?

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    All work and no play..... Vottomatic's Avatar
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    Re: Votto needs more protection

    The only one that really makes sense is Beltran. He's a switch hitter and have a solid comeback year. He is too expensive, but he is what this team needs.

    I'd love to have Kemp though batting leadoff and then move Stubbs down in the order to like 7th.

    And I've been saying Votto needs protection since the offseason. I knew this would become a problem of Joey not getting any pitches to hit. And furthermore, what does it do to Joey's chances of staying here after 3 years if the Reds don't protect him in the lineup? He probably bolts for greener pastures.
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    Recovering Cubs Fan
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    Re: Votto needs more protection

    I don't get the sense they have money to spend. Maybe it's the way they keep saying they don't have any money to spend. Besides, GOMES IS BACK BABY!!!!!
    FIRE DUSTY Never mind. The man is clearly a genius.

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    Retro-Gamer Krawhitham's Avatar
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    Re: Votto needs more protection

    They might be able to get Matt Kemp cheap

    Dodgers are having issues covering payroll

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    Re: Votto needs more protection

    Kemp or Reyes.

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