# Thread: 6-8-2011 Reds vs Cubs Matinee Today

1. ## Re: 6-8-2011 Reds vs Cubs Matinee Today

Frustrating season.. Every time I get optimistic that the team might be putting things together, they have a game like this.

Yea, we will still have won 2 of 3 from the Cubs, but this game is a downer.
We need to make up some ground.

3. ## Re: 6-8-2011 Reds vs Cubs Matinee Today

Johnny Gomes: The nightmare that never ends.

In fact, I'm to the point now with Gomes that I cringe when he gets a hit, because somewhere Dusty Baker and Walt Jocketty are thinking: "See, he is the answer!" Gomes' 4-hit aberration the other day was almost panic-inducing for me.

4. ## Re: 6-8-2011 Reds vs Cubs Matinee Today

Originally Posted by Reds/Flyers Fan
Johnny Gomes: The nightmare that never ends.

In fact, I'm to the point now with Gomes that I cringe when he gets a hit, because somewhere Dusty Baker and Walt Jocketty are thinking: "See, he is the answer!" Gomes' 4-hit aberration the other day was almost panic-inducing for me.
I know, I hate when reds players get 4 hits in a game.

5. ## Re: 6-8-2011 Reds vs Cubs Matinee Today

Originally Posted by edabbs44
I know, I hate when reds players get 4 hits in a game.
Dusty Baker probably has some convoluted mathematical formula for Johnny Gomes that essentially gives Gomes "X" number of starts per hit.

A 4-hit game might keep him in the everyday lineup through Labor Day.

6. ## Re: 6-8-2011 Reds vs Cubs Matinee Today

I hate losing to the Cubs but the Reds outscored them in the series 17-8 and took 2 out of 3. That seems about right to me.

7. ## Re: 6-8-2011 Reds vs Cubs Matinee Today

Originally Posted by Reds/Flyers Fan
Dusty Baker probably has some convoluted mathematical formula for Johnny Gomes that essentially gives Gomes "X" number of starts per hit.

A 4-hit game might keep him in the everyday lineup through Labor Day.
Since that game Gomes has 22 PAs. For reference, Bruce has 42. He isn't overly starting JG and, to be honest, Gomes has looked better since being benched. He has produced.

I know that upsets you, but it is true.

8. ## Re: 6-8-2011 Reds vs Cubs Matinee Today

Originally Posted by edabbs44
Since that game Gomes has 22 PAs. For reference, Bruce has 42. He isn't overly starting JG and, to be honest, Gomes has looked better since being benched. He has produced.

I know that upsets you, but it is true.
Facts, scmacks.

9. ## Re: 6-8-2011 Reds vs Cubs Matinee Today

Originally Posted by Reds/Flyers Fan
Dusty Baker probably has some convoluted mathematical formula for Johnny Gomes that essentially gives Gomes "X" number of starts per hit.

A 4-hit game might keep him in the everyday lineup through Labor Day.
It's not like Lewis or Heisey look great. Flewis has played pretty darned poorly since he's been here. Has looked ridiculous fielding wise.

Believe me, I'm not a fan of Gomes' overall game, but I think at this point it's more of a problem of having ANYONE good than it is deciding which guy to put in the line-up. Using Heisey is probably the best idea against righties (and Gomes vs. lefties), but the overall difference over the long haul is dimmering.

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