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    Re: Reds @ Dodgers 6-15

    Quote Originally Posted by Stray View Post
    Who was the obvious choice to start opening day then?

    Cueto was on the DL.
    Homer was on the DL.
    Bronson had mono.

    Are you saying that before this season it was painfully obvious that Leake or Wood was better than Volquez? Come on now.

    Also, wow Gomes is seriously flashing some leather today lol
    I would have gone with either Wood or Leake, both are leaps and bounds right now better then EV. Also why couldn't Bronson have gone, he pitched in that home opening series...

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    Re: Reds @ Dodgers 6-15

    All that said, I'm a little concerned that he used Bray today. There was no need to. There must be a callup coming from the Minor Leagues coming Thursday or Friday...a Left-hander, and that's why Bray was used for the 7th time in the last 12 days.

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    Re: Reds @ Dodgers 6-15

    Quote Originally Posted by RedLegsToday View Post
    So, what's going on in the game? :-)
    LOL...7-2...Masset is up in the bottom of the 9th. Carroll is at the plate for the Dodgers. Just got walked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    All that said, I'm a little concerned that he used Bray today. There was no need to. There must be a callup coming from the Minor Leagues coming Thursday or Friday...a Left-hander, and that's why Bray was used for the 7th time in the last 12 days.
    Ah...could it be the manager has no clue what he is doing when it comes to managing his bullpen?

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    Re: Reds @ Dodgers 6-15

    Every pitcher is different though. Yes, the pitching motion is not natural and does create stress on the arm. But if a pitcher is well conditioned and has a smooth, repeatable delivery it's a little bit different.

    Now, I don't pretend to be an expert and Wood isn't a very big guy. But you take a pitcher like a Roy Halladay and I guarantee that the Phillies don't worry about his arm blowing up because he's thrown 101 pitches.

    There is more to it than numbers alone.

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    Re: Reds @ Dodgers 6-15

    Ethier Ks. 1 out.
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    Re: Reds @ Dodgers 6-15

    Ethier did Masset a favor there.

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    Re: Reds @ Dodgers 6-15

    Quote Originally Posted by Stray View Post
    Ethier did Masset a favor there.
    No doubt.

    (Uh-oh...another pitcher war discussion may be brewing).....LOL....
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    Re: Reds @ Dodgers 6-15

    I was thinking the same thing. Rest your frontline relievers in a game like this.

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    Re: Reds @ Dodgers 6-15

    come on bp

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    Re: Reds @ Dodgers 6-15

    Phillips doesn't tag the bag as Carroll comes in to second. Two out.
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    Re: Reds @ Dodgers 6-15

    SUH-----WEEEEEP!

    Take THAT, Dogturds!!!!


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    Re: Reds @ Dodgers 6-15

    Surely with this, Matt Kemp will demand a trade to the Reds. Perhaps Kershaw will too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brm7675 View Post
    Again stats say differently. Look at all the pitchers who are having to be shut down and have major arm issues. The pitching motion of baseball players is not healthy for the arm. There is no reason to add on wear and tear on the body when you don't have to.
    You need to look at more stats.

    Baseball players consistently pitched 400-500 innings during a season for decades before pitchers began being specialists in the late-60's/early '70's.

    It's just a matter of each individual, and what kind of background that person had growing up, along with what type of pitches they throw. Wood, for example, is a type of pitcher who can go deep into games because he's effective with his pitches, usually. He's struggled some this year, but not if you look at his starts since May.

    June 15th, 6IP, 1ER, 114 pitches
    June 10th, 8IP, 2ER, 109 pitches
    June 5th, 4.2IP, 8ER, 106 pitches
    May 30th, 6IP, 3ER, 95 pitches
    May 25th, 6IP, 3ER, 102 pitches
    May 20th, 5.1IP, 4ER, 94 pitches
    May 15th, 6IP, 2ER, 103 pitches
    May 9th, 6.2IP, 0ER, 106 pitches
    May 4th, 6IP, 2ER, 104 pitches.

    Now, if you look at those outings, Baker could have used Wood for another batter or two, or three for almost all of those starts. But, he was trying to stretch out Wood's arm slowly knowing that last year the REDS used Wood for more innings than they should have, while also trying to talk to him about being more efficient and that going only 6 Innings isn't going to get it done, no matter how few of runs he's giving up. That's now 6 times in his last 9 starts that he's given up 3ER or less while not reaching the 7th inning, and only one time going past the 6th inning. By Baker sending a message to him to go out there and finish the 6th inning, it's putting in his mind that he's got to be more efficient so that he can complete 7 or 8 innings more often. He's got to do that if this bullpen is going to have anything left come August, not to mention September and October.

    There won't be any ill effect on Wood of him throwing 114 pitches today. He'll continue to put up similar numbers to what you see above, except you're going to start seeing him going more than 6.0 IP once every five starts.

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    Re: Reds @ Dodgers 6-15

    Is it my imagination or do we always play better when Darren Baker puts in an appearance?


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