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    Would you make this deal?

    If offered straight up would you..

    Trade Votto for J. Bautista

    Even swap...

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    Re: Would you make this deal?

    No way! How about this deal Edgar Renteria for a bag of chips. Any takers?

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    Re: Would you make this deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by brm7675 View Post
    If offered straight up would you..

    Trade Votto for J. Bautista

    Even swap...
    They are pretty equal players right now, Votto is younger, no deal.

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    Re: Would you make this deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by VottoFan54 View Post
    They are pretty equal players right now, Votto is younger, no deal.
    But if you are pretty sure you are only going to have Votto for another 2.5 seasons, would you do it?

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    Re: Would you make this deal?

    I will say when Votto hits free agency the Reds will lose him.
    does anyone else get the feeling his heart isn't here in Cincy.

    If that's the case this question will come up again and I would rather have Alonso and Bautista than Alonso only.

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    Re: Would you make this deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsnake View Post
    I will say when Votto hits free agency the Reds will lose him.
    does anyone else get the feeling his heart isn't here in Cincy.

    If that's the case this question will come up again and I would rather have Alonso and Bautista than Alonso only.
    I've heard he likes Cincy and doesn't like change!!

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    Re: Would you make this deal?

    A. I would not trade Votto for Kemp. Kemp has had a lot of problems in the past and was even benched for awhile last year.
    B. I am not sure I would trade Bruce for Bautista. Bruce is really starting to hit and has a huge upside.

    Sometimes people shine because of their situation (don't need to look further than Griffey Jr.). There are a lot of factors to look at - your fan base, the community, your manager, your teammates ... I am not sure Bautista would shine in Cincy. Of course you never know.

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    Re: Would you make this deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by brm7675 View Post
    But if you are pretty sure you are only going to have Votto for another 2.5 seasons, would you do it?
    I wait until the 2013 trade deadline and see what we can get there. Trading Votto makes this team sub .500 imo.

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    Re: Would you make this deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by bshall2105 View Post
    I wait until the 2013 trade deadline and see what we can get there. Trading Votto makes this team sub .500 imo.
    So you don't think it would be fair value in return AND you bring up Yonder to play first...

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    Re: Would you make this deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by brm7675 View Post
    So you don't think it would be fair value in return AND you bring up Yonder to play first...
    I think that it's a fair trade but I think Votto is so valuable to this franchise that I would want to keep as long as possible.

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    Re: Would you make this deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by brm7675 View Post
    But if you are pretty sure you are only going to have Votto for another 2.5 seasons, would you do it?
    Yes, I would do it if the Reds FO felt their was anything less than a 50-50 chance at resigning him, otherwise I would take my chances.

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    Re: Would you make this deal?

    I've been reading on here for a couple years, finally decided to join the mayhem.

    I would hate to lose Votto. BUT (!) Bautista and Alonso sounds better to me than Gomes and Votto.

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    Re: Would you make this deal?

    In a baseball sense, Bautista is a better fit. His ability to play third would be pretty handy with Rolen around. And Alonso is better than any OF they have coming up. But there are other issues as well. This ownership has worked very hard to bring people back to the ballpark and buy in. Selling off the MVP, the best hitter this team has had in a long time --and that's saying something -- would likely set back a lot of the goodwill the team has worked very hard to build. Obviously, if they continue to win, people will get over it. But guys like Votto don't come around very often, and it's difficult to imagine a non-video game scenario where he's traded.

    I'd totally trade him and Volquez for Jered Weaver and Mike Trout though.
    FIRE DUSTY Never mind. The man is clearly a genius.

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    Re: Would you make this deal?

    Votto will always be an excellent hitter with decent power.

    I'm not convinced Bautista is here to stay with his power. Plus, he's a late bloomer and already a bit old for me.

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    No way! Votto could be one of the best ever. Keep him in a Reds uniform for a long time. I'm surprised people are even considering this.


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