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    I'm not sold on the Pirates

    And maybe no one else is sold on them either...

    But they have gotten several mentions on here the past few weeks in regards to the fact that they are sneaking up on the Reds and the other NL Central leaders.

    I just expect that they will fade away over the next month. Not to say that they are not much improved and are a team on the rise. Just saying I don't believe they are long term contenders this season.

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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    I'll say the same thing that I've said since the first week of the season--fourth place. Which is a significant improvement and a step in the right direction for them.
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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    And maybe no one else is sold on them either...

    But they have gotten several mentions on here the past few weeks in regards to the fact that they are sneaking up on the Reds and the other NL Central leaders.

    I just expect that they will fade away over the next month. Not to say that they are not much improved and are a team on the rise. Just saying I don't believe they are long term contenders this season.

    I agree with you on that but I think that starting pitching could be good for years to come. If they could get a consistent/better offense they could be a dangerous team 2 or 3 years down the road.
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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    I hope they fade because I have a $20 bet with a Pirate fan in their head-to-head contest this year. I thought it was a sure thing, but so far we're 1-5 vs them. Not looking good for me so far. The last 9 games are all in Pitt.

    Their pitching overall has been pretty solid. That's why they are still in it, and could very well be the rest of the year. Their offense is pretty much at the other end of the spectrum. If their pitching fades, then they'll be in trouble. But I'm not seeing many signs of that as of yet.
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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu View Post
    I'll say the same thing that I've said since the first week of the season--fourth place. Which is a significant improvement and a step in the right direction for them.
    That's what I think too. If they end up .500 they should have a parade in Pittsburgh. Their pitching has been great to this point. Can it continue will be the big question? If so they will hang around in the race because the NL Central is fairly weak. Ray Searage has done a phenomenal job as pitching coach turning those starters around.
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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    And maybe no one else is sold on them either...

    But they have gotten several mentions on here the past few weeks in regards to the fact that they are sneaking up on the Reds and the other NL Central leaders.

    I just expect that they will fade away over the next month. Not to say that they are not much improved and are a team on the rise. Just saying I don't believe they are long term contenders this season.
    I agree. I don't think they'll hang around after the ASB, but one thing to consider...their offense is seriously under-performing. While I do expect them to fade, I also expect their offense to have a second half resurgence. It's the starting pitching that I expect to fade. Their starting rotation has been fabulous.

    This is what I figured before the season, and I'm sticking with it.
    Reds: Best record in second half
    Brewers: Dogfight til the end, couple games out
    Pirates: Near .500, falls a game or 2 short.
    Cardinals: Few games behind Bucs
    Cubs: Second half improvement, nearly overtaking Cards
    Astros: Worst record in baseball
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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    I am rooting for the Pirates to end up with 82 wins as long as a disproportionate amount of the wins do not come against the Reds.

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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    The Pirates run differential says they should a few games under .500. Their pitching staff is relying on contact, which isn't a good thing.

    They are getting better, but they will be lucky to finish with 80 wins.
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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    I am rooting for the Pirates to end up with 82 wins as long as a disproportionate amount of the wins do not come against the Reds.
    They already have a disproportionate number of wins against the Reds
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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    Boston is a believer.
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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by GAC View Post
    Boston is a believer.
    They're just getting back at the Reds for losing 2 of 3 to the Yankees.
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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    I wonder if fans in other NL Central cities said similar things about the Reds this time last year...

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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by membengal View Post
    I wonder if fans in other NL Central cities said similar things about the Reds this time last year...
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    The Pirates have shut out the Reds two games in a row. I'd buy what ever they are drinking right now. It might not be pretty but they are in first place. They must be doing something right.
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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool View Post
    The Pirates run differential says they should a few games under .500. Their pitching staff is relying on contact, which isn't a good thing.

    They are getting better, but they will be lucky to finish with 80 wins.
    I predict 90 wins. No joke. They are the 2011 version of the 2010 Reds and will suffer the same fate. First round loss, and like the Reds, they'll fade away.
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